What Happened In The Magic Vs Catco Thing?

[noise]

Was there ever a conclusion to the claims that magic cats were not really cats?

cheers

[Andi]

Indeedy! What happened? Very interested to hear results.

[someonestolecc]

Thread was closed till the results came back. I think that's a wise idea

[Baz]

Well as long as there classified as 'cats' then there isn't really anything to worry about. And as long as they are legal

[INASNT]

After so many pages of rubbish in that other thread none of the promised tests have been done with the 2 cats in question??? What a cop out

[Sumo]

I suppose the whole legal thing scares most workshops from performing any kinds of tests they may deform a company.

I know that I wouldn't risk my company for a few unpaid cat tests.

Cheers

Sumo

[predator]

How would independent analysis be deformation?

Its like suing somebody for a bad review of a car in a magazine.

[lwells]

After so many pages of rubbish in that other thread none of the promised tests have been done with the 2 cats in question??? What a cop out

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

In fairness, I think SK has been extremely busy with the racing side of things. When people try to do things in their spare time its not necessarily a "cop out" if other things get in the way.

You could always organise to do the tests or are you going to cop out?

[Gav]

My offer still stands for free analysis of the substrate for platinum, rhodium and palladium content (the metals that actually catalyse the "nasties" in the exhaust gas).

If someone can get me a gram or so to Perth, I'll have some results back in a couple of days. You can then form your own opinion as to what the unit actually is and does.

Cheers

Gav

[Fastrotor]

I've put one on my 33 gtst, and then did a 4 gas analyser test on it, and it was working fine.

Test was done with car purring along as low speed, making about 10kws on dyno until results stabilised.

Test unit was a Protech FLUX 2000 (ver 7.82)

HC was 0

Co was 0

C02 was 12.4%

No 861 ppm

Nox 947 ppm

AFR 14.7:1 (as indicated by test unit and also dyno)

If the cat wasnt working the HC and Co levels would have been up alot.

Also, everyone has to remember, you dont just whack a cat on a car and it magically (no pun intended!) cleans it up perfectly. Tuning has ALOT to do with it, timing as well as fueling.

On my results, the No & Nox could have come down by playing with the timing .

Also even for just basic go/no go testing , sitting on the dyno tuning it at 10:1 levels, and your eyes arnt watering and it smells clean..........

anyone who has tuned cars on a dyno can tell you what its like, that rich, without a cat.......... especially rotaries.

Gary

[INASNT]

In fairness, I think SK has been extremely busy with the racing side of things.  When people try to do things in their spare time its not necessarily a "cop out" if other things get in the way. 

You could always organise to do the tests or are you going to cop out?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Send me 2 cars with the different cats and an exhaust analyser and i will do it.

I will have to throughly trash the cars first to calibrate them

[shif_tea]

Fastrotor, what a champion thats what we wanted to hear, someone who had actually installed one and had it tested. I'm getting mine installed this week.

I do think that BATMBL should have done some testing himself if he wanted to start all this drama instead of just starting rumours. Anyway be good to hear if others have had em tested too.

[Angry]

pretty sure its irrelavent anyways..... its law that the driver/ owner of the vehicle is to fit a cat that meets emissions. .. if the results are in favour of one being more legal than the other... whats the other company going to do ... pay out ppls EPA fines coz a cat that doesnt comply or reemburst them for a product they bought from them? ..... highly doubtful for either suggestions

my 2c

[Andi]

I thought the point was that if you're car was completely emission compliant that you wouldn't want that to change if you fitted the Magic Cat?

[Fastrotor]

If you took this cat and put it on a factory setup that was all working correctly, then it will work fine.

My point was that you cant just whack any cat on a car thats running a bad tune, ie not at stoic at low power (read dead o2 sensor etc) and expect the emissions to be perfect, tuning of the motor (in the case of aftermarket) , and general condition of it all play a large part for the cat to give valid results (read legal).

Gary.