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Hi all,

I was browsing through amaya, looking at some prices of supras when I spotted this car:

http://auctions.amayama.com/toyota/supra/1286270/

Looking at the pictures, I recognised this car somewhere else... and yes I did.

http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/au/st...sp?StockID=3491

Look familiar? Look at the registration plates.. then compare the ODOs on both cars...

Not to mention the inflated price tag!

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sewid Grand Master

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PMS isnt the supplier - Geoff advertises cars from a number of Japanese suppliers. He has no control over what the suppliers are doing with the cars.

It really is the Japanese export industry that needs to clean up it's act but it wont happen because there are enough uneducated people willing to buy 15 year old cars with 40,000km on them.

siddr20 Grand Master

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^^^ thats true BUT!!!

why not go to another supplier then, if he knows this is happenin and customers are complaining..

Better yet!!! Why not write somewhere on the page that BEWARE, a few problems may arise such as rust.. hmm then again, no one would buy it..

So in the end it all comes down to, how you can make money witout gettin to much into trouble..

Its all about money these days.. thats it..

Driver Grand Master

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hold on

correct me if im wrong...

This car was sold at an auction in Japan for - 702000 ¥ (~ 6290 $)

Geoff is selling for

$19,800 plus tyres and ORC's

included the cost of shipping, import duties, GST, compliance and our service fee in this estimate

soooo whats wrong?

Guest

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It sold at 702,000 yen and offered for sale at 942,000 which is normal mark up for buying from stock out of Japan, but the other point is why is it listed at different klm's on the Japanese suppliers web site but it was listed at "Run (ths km): 131" on the auction sites.

funkymonkey Grand Master

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bollocks he has no control... at least some research could be put into a car prior to listing

http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/4294

Feel free to check out the other offerings from the same supplier whose cars J-Spec cross checks before listing. Then compare em to the PMS list. (like http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/4292 and http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/4219 and http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/4215 and http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/4175 and http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/4159 and http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/4160 ) ... I think that's enough to prove my point :)

The issue has already been brought up with the supplier and they've besically passed the buck around and not taken any responsibility for it.

I guess they're just trying to justify that if the odo reads less they can charge more for the car. The best that can be done is to inform potential buyers, but you can't argue about the price they want as it is their property and they can ask whatever they want for it, regardless of what it sold for at auction.

I have personally used Motorworld twice and found them to be great.
Tony was just one sales guy at motor world, if he no longer works there it really makes no difference at all. I bought two great cars from motor world I will vouch for them.
I am one to vouch for motorworld i found there service great ... none the less im sure the rest of there staff are just as nice

Of course, you could just deal direct with the supplier and let them lie to you :) ... or maybe... just maybe some brokers actually work for the money you pay em to find a car huh?

sewid Grand Master

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bollocks he has no control... at least some research could be put into a car prior to listing

The issue has already been brought up with the supplier and they've besically passed the buck around and not taken any responsibility for it.

I guess they're just trying to justify that if the odo reads less they can charge more for the car. The best that can be done is to inform potential buyers, but you can't argue about the price they want as it is their property and they can ask whatever they want for it, regardless of what it sold for at auction.

Of course, you could just deal direct with the supplier and let them lie to you :O ... or maybe... just maybe some brokers actually work for the money you pay em to find a car huh?

Yes Geoff could do more research into it but he cannot control suppliers. If he put more pressure on suppliers by not buying cars from known bad suppliers (those who wind back every odo they get) then maybe something could happen. I dont see this happening though as the particular suppliers he works with have large number of cheap and nasty cars which sell quickly due to their low price. People think they get bargains.

In other words, things work fine right now, with only a couple of complaints every now and then, so why change? I think its wrong too but thats life in this fairly dodgy end of the import business.

I think what he needs to do is insist that his suppliers supply auction sheets for every advertisement Geoff puts on his website which are displayed for everyone to see along with the photos he already has.

t34r Rookie

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considering his service is to assist buyers source vehicles from 'reliable suppliers', as quoted on his website. i think it is disappointing that he does not take a more active role in sorting out the reliable from the unreliable suppliers, especially since there is another post about someone having problems with a car they have imported.

one of the principle arguements of ending the 15 year old rule was because of the quality of the cars being imported. considering he was soo opposed to the ending of the rule, and then to continue to advertise cars from unreliable suppliers...

so, as it has always been said...caveat emptor, because it seems nobody else will be looking out for you...except maybe your friends on sau.

:O

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I think what he needs to do is insist that his suppliers supply auction sheets for every advertisement Geoff puts on his website which are displayed for everyone to see along with the photos he already has.

They will never post the auction reports as a lot of people wouldnt buy cars from them, a few accident/very untidy/rusty cars will make people think twice about using them.

Talk to a few workshops and ask them what different supplyiers are like before you make a decision.

They are car dealers in another country and people need to remember that.

the_wickerman Rookie

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hi all,

i have been interested in importing a car for a few months now. im currently on a mailing list and have been watching a few cars with some great interest. i would like to give a big thumbs up to Obaybe for spotting the inconsistencies. thankfully i haven't made a purchase, and will definatley be choosing who i go through wisely. now i know why many of the cars on the prestige site have their number plates blacked out.

bootlegapparel Enthusiast

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They will never post the auction reports as a lot of people wouldnt buy cars from them, a few accident/very untidy/rusty cars will make people think twice about using them.

Talk to a few workshops and ask them what different supplyiers are like before you make a decision.

They are car dealers in another country and people need to remember that.

I got the auction report with my car, unfortuanetely i couldn't read it properly till a little later so i was only able to translate and understand a bit, my car ended up having the radiator support cut so that had to be replaced, it wasn't mentioned, and i was annoyed with that, but the other stuff that came with the car, i think it was a fair price, would've been nice to know though.

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am i missing something? both links show 131k km, not sure what the problem is. as for the price, he can charge what he likes. the rest is up to the potential buyer.

It has been updated as one broker and the auctions had it at 131,000 klm and two other sites had it at 60,000 klm.

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