Shado34 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Apparently its illegal to install a gear knob if it does not have on it a gear pattern indicator on it eg 1 3 5 |-|-| 2 4 R does anyone know were u can get stickers or indicators to place near the gear stick like on the ashtray, as sti's have (i think). I was told nismo gear sticks come with it, but can u get it seperatey or from another place? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWNU Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) Haha, well the H pattern was faded on my GTR (that was before I bought my shiney new silver RAZO shifter ) I got a RAZO H Pattern sticker with the shifter, heres a pic of the H pattern (couldn't be bothered fitting the actual shifter yet back then, lol in case you're wondering where the Razo shifter is) If you want you can buy the shifter/h pattern off ebay. Also, guys that make decals/windscreen stickers usually have H patterns. If you're cheap, you can make your own crummy looking one as well. LoL. Edited November 6, 2005 by IOWNU Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1694065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ido09s Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I have asked an engineer this question as i also thought this was the case but he said there is no ADR that requires a car with a manual transmission to have a H pattern or sticker on or near the gear stick only Autos require the markings D etc along the side. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1694209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Links Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I do believe that if you don't have an H pattern on your manual gear stick - you do need one located nearby - this is probably a safety thing as well.. maybe in case someone needs to drive your car?? bit strange - but could be like the turbo timer law's... either 1) make one with a post-it note or 2) i'd suggest getting one printed at a sticker place.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1694255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWNU Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I was informed, that it was required by law, in case an emergency situation arose in which a stranger, unfamiliar with your car, would have to drive your car. Makes a bit fo sense I guess..... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1694756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Links Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Email the RTA - they have a link to ask technical questions and they will give you the direct answer.. once again I do believe it is because of this ^^ that you need one in your car.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1694975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 garage13 sells the stickers that go on grex gear knobs for $5. just whack one of those near by http://www.garage-13.com/interior.html Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1696879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 If you need H pattern diagram to know how to drive a manual car should you really even be attempting to drive a manual car?? Shouldn't that be more the point??? Last time i checked the gears in a manual car are always the same way...... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1697247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEmblem Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 So... how many of us look down at the gear knob to see where second/third/forth etc are before changing? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1697566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
racsov500 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I heard it was illegial.. my car has a nice knob in it but it doesnt have a h pattern.. but then again, its unregod andd unroadworthy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1697572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHATR32 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 well, ive seen a few cars (astra) where the reverse is near the 1st. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1697683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 plenty of cars have different shift patterns. some cars i have driven have reverse up where first would be (although you have to push the stick down and shift up for reverse to engage), and also remember some cars have only 4spd or 6spd gearboxes. i got the shift pattern stickers with my nismo knob, stuck the appropriate one on near the ashtray, still have a spare 6 speed sticker left over. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1697834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunta Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I put an old landcruiser in R once insted of first Was when I first started driving and I looked for a shift pattern and couldnt find it (Later found out it was on the inside of the glove box lid! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1697876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEmblem Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I almost put my '88 Ford Laser into R instead of what would have been 6th if 6th existed. Had only been driving a few months Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1697948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddr20 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 cant u just draw it on paper n stick it there.. it wil be free!! cant see issue wit that.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1698113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 i dont see how it could be illegal the BA XR's with optional MOMO shifter knob didnt have a shift pattern anywhere. and thats from factory. thats back on the first BA's by the way. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1699076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shado34 Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 hey thanks all for the replies, i think its illegal due to different shift patterns like reverse near 1 st not 5th in some cars etc ill try find a place that makes custon stickers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1699527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 ebay sells the shift pattern things too man i think they even have nismo on them Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1699551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someonestolecc Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I have asked an engineer this question as i also thought this was the case but he said there is no ADR that requires a car with a manual transmission to have a H pattern or sticker on or near the gear stick only Autos require the markings D etc along the side. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you. When I was getting my car engineered the guy laughed and said it's the biggest urban myth. People just tell someone else and so on and so forth.. kinda like this thread. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1701776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 well I've seen people who have been defected and have had this written on their list, but they were getting dicked for alot of stuff.. I doubt ud get any trouble unless u had alot of shit wrong with ur car and the cop was in a bad mood. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/93834-gear-shift-sticker/#findComment-1701914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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