Merli

Yeah, I understand what you're saying It's all Sydneykid's fault, he picked on us in another thread for misusing the term boost, and I've carried it over into this thread And yeah, that is a very convex curve for a peak figure of 417rwkw... I'm also impressed

I prefer to call them "Watch dis bro!!!" deaths

I'm pretty sure Doughgirl was talking about my rims :Oops: I'm the only one I've heard of with them :uhh:

I don't think you're quite getting the effect of headwork and 280 degree camshafts though At the risk of treating you like a n00b (which obviously I know you're not), you have to remember that boost is just a measure of head restriction, NOT airflow. Lets say that particular turbo kit needed to push 1200CFM of air through the motor to hit 417rwkw.... So if you strapped that entire turbo kit and accessories onto a stock motor, you will need to push 1200CFM of air through the engine to make the required power. This might equate to a 40psi (arbitrary value) head restriction to make that power. But because this engine has had work to reduce the head restriction (and therefore improve the airflow through it), although the turbo is still pushing 1200CFM of air through the motor, you're only measuring a 23psi head restriction (commonly called "boost")... "hence would need plenty of boost to make the sort of airflow for over 400rwkws...." That doesn't really make sense... boost has nothing to do with airflow... It has everything to do with head restriction... You can have eleventy billion CFM of airflow and 1psi of "boost" if your head is good enough Sorry if that's bleedingly obvious to you, I just wanted to make sure we're all on the same page here

It's not that easy. A 120Y is a horribly unsafe car, and as you know, L and P-platers can get themselves into a world of trouble in ANY car. I wouldn't want my kids having an accident in a 120Y :uhh: But as I said, that's an utterly stupid comparison, and no-one would EVER have to make that choice. Lets compare two similarly priced cars, or equal year of manufacture. Lets say... A Honda Accord and a Subaru WRX. Which one would you rather your kid drive?

Why are you using such stupid extremes? Is that the only way you can convince yourself that you need to drive a powerful car? In what possible situation can you forsee where the two car choices would be a $40,000 WRX and a $600 120Y?!?! :uhh: :uhh:

Not that I know of... Perhaps wait for one of the guys living in japan, they might be able to come up with something for you

and we're just mucking around... Get over it. geez

ご飯 - gohan

.............. I have no retort for that

Nah dude, I believe you 100%... You don't strike me as the kind of person who would lie like that. My point was that the airflow from that "23psi" would have been a LOT greater than on a standard engine... 280 degree cams, ported and polished head... That reduces the head restriction a LOT over a standard engine, so if you were to make the same power with the same turbo setup on a stock engine, it would require a lot more "boost pressure"... My "bah" was mainly aimed at Roy's surprise that it was only using 23psi You have to take into account head work and big cams before being amazed at such a low boost pressure

THIS JUST IN!!! BABY JESUS WAS BORN!!!!!!!

23psi.. bah. Does it have any headwork done?

Those stereotypes exist for a reason. You forget that we all were once L-platers with something to prove as well, and in HINDSIGHT (something you are not yet blessed with), a power restriction for L-platers and P-platers is an excellent idea.

The post was meant to illustrate that people are always trying to mold the class rules around what they have done to their car. It's pretty transparent really. You don't run cross-ply, so you don't want to compete against people running cross-ply tyres because they have an advantage over you. Makes sense doesn't it? Same way that someone who runs 1 power adder doesn't want to compete against someone running 3 power adders. It all stems from what you have on your car, and you're trying to limit the allowed modifications so you're at the top of the field. People have been doing this for centuries in every kind of competitive setting. I don't need to make myself feel better about using Nitrous, I've been using it for the past 6 years, I'm obviously fine about using it... But I'm over trying to educate people about it

Because if it's anything like the other Hot 4s/Fast Fours cruises, there will be 5 car pile-ups, bragging on the forums afterwards of overtaking on the shoulder at 190km/h, and other ful sik bro behaviour. But hey, if you want to go, we're not stopping you!

Done P.S. These are done assuming standard gearbox, not a Holinger or OS Close Ratio

Uneven spacing of RPM... Where have I gone wrong?

Wow... 19" wheels and dials up 417kw Impressive 4th Gear Speeds: 2000 - 59km/h 2500 - 74 km/h 3000 - 89 km/h 3500 - 104 km/h 4000 - 119 km/h 4500 - 134 km/h 5000 - 148 km/h 5500 - 163 km/h 6000 - 178 km/h 6500 - 193 km/h 7000 - 208 km/h 7500 - 223 km/h 8000 - 238 km/h 8500 - 252 km/h I'll put them on the graph now

edit: fcuk it... I couldn't be fcuked. First person to make my ignore list on SAU. Congratulations.

Can I please ask what size wheels/tyres this car was using, so I can put rpm against that graph? Serious-Seven: I wouldn't exactly say that was "no lag" :Oops:

YOU CHEATERER!!!!!

Sounds to me like you're trying to set the rules according to what you've done to your car "Oh look... I don't have nitrous.... Therefore: Nitrous is cheating!!!!" "Oh look... I'm only using radial tyres... Therefore: Cross-plys should be in another class!" "Oh look... I'm using an auto box........................................ :Oops:" -> Does that mean that you should be bumped into another class, away from the manual cars? I'm chasing lower times. I'm not trying to satisfy some clown up in the commentary box or behind a desk at ANDRA... Who the hell is he to tell me what's right and what's wrong, and what's legal and what's cheating. All I care about it that number that flashes up on the timing board at the end of the strip. I don't give a shit what you do to get there.

Not really... HKS T04S is only rated to 550hp, and the T04R at 600hp... If anything, that's LESS than what that car is making... In any case, I was the closest, so I win... Gimme my cookie biatch!!!

Woohoo! I guessed single turbo, but HKS T04, not Garrett T04 me > all of you