Hks Upgrade Pics

[Swiper the Fox]

how long now dad

not long kids

[Roy]

BTW Roy...are the Tah's winning

Tahs got done

So...back to "whats under the bonnet?"

[Swiper the Fox]

Tahs got done

So...back to "whats under the bonnet?"

NNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

so they were without Wendel's secret smelling salts this week eh.

Under the bonnet......well Just as Mr Nissan intended but with forgies and bolt ons.

[BU5TER]

cricket

cricket

[R31Nismoid]

I forget what this thread was about - Paulie maybe?

I dunno.

I was thinking much the same thing for the past 4 pages

Its like someone blocked up the drag section and its oozing over the rim into Forced

Paul/Stace - is this being tuned on the Juice or Cats piss?

If its juice, im with SK... well into the 500's

[DCIEVE]

I'l be interested to hear if you measure any difference in temps (engine bay or inlet) as a result of the ceramic coatings. A fellow mech eng (albeit with 10yrs more experience) used thermal imaging equipment on his coated dump and found that it did absolutely nothing.

Edited May 19, 2006 by DCIEVE

[Swiper the Fox]

I'l be interested to hear if you measure any difference in temps (engine bay or inlet) as a result of the ceramic coatings. A fellow mech eng (albeit with 10yrs more experience) used thermal imaging equipment on his coated dump and found that it did absolutely nothing.

great thanks mate for the heads up, I'll be removing it 1st thing in the morning with the sand blaster.

Stace

[Craved]

great thanks mate for the heads up, I'll be removing it 1st thing in the morning with the sand blaster.

Stace

giggles

so no news huh ..

[blk180]

O ok so it made that much cool

Good luck with everythink tomorrow

Brad

[DCIEVE]

great thanks mate for the heads up, I'll be removing it 1st thing in the morning with the sand blaster.

Stace

Thanks, thats extremely informative. After the first few pages I had assumed you were basing your comments towards the stuff on previous testing, if not then people should know how effective it really is.

[Swiper the Fox]

Well it didn't make much more power than we already had...i suspect the cams and capacity were a perfect match for the 2530's...to get full power from thr RS's i think a larger capacity bottom end and higher lift/duration cams will be required. The turbos can flow more air...but is the engine set-up capable of ingesting it?....i think not.

To put it in perspective these turbos are rated the same as a T51R KAI and it would be unwise to bolt this turbo onto a STD capacity engine and 260deg 9.15mm lift cams and expect top results.

Ahh well...now for the 400m dyno tomm. for some further testing and results.

[Swiper the Fox]

Thanks, thats extremely informative. After the first few pages I had assumed you were basing your comments towards the stuff on previous testing, if not then people should know how effective it really is.

Your test needs to be a before and after example to have any credibility.

Why don't you start a thread about this topic as people may be interested in seeing your theories matched against multimillion dollar race teams research from Top Fuel dragsters to V8 supercars.

[JAS-25T]

Bezerkly Galant FTW!!!!!!!

:PBJ: :PBJ: :PBJ:

[silver gts-t]

Thanks, thats extremely informative. After the first few pages I had assumed you were basing your comments towards the stuff on previous testing, if not then people should know how effective it really is.

the purpose of the coating is meant to keep the heat in, not to keep the dump cool, the hotter the gas the faster it moves, so in that pic the coating is working fine.

any figures paul?

[DCIEVE]

the purpose of the coating is meant to keep the heat in, not to keep the dump cool, the hotter the gas the faster it moves, so in that pic the coating is working fine.

any figures paul?

silver gts-s you are contradicting yourself. The image shows coated and uncoated sections of the same pipe, if the heat is reaching the external surface of the pipe then the coating has already failed.

Didnt mean to offend the believers, was just looking for some evidence of it working.. i've forked out over a grand on the stuff in the past as well.

Back on topic, the workmanship on this car is incredible.

[silver gts-t]

silver gts-s you are contradicting yourself. The image shows coated and uncoated sections of the same pipe, if the heat is reaching the external surface of the pipe then the coating has already failed.

Didnt mean to offend the believers, was just looking for some evidence of it working.. i've forked out over a grand on the stuff in the past as well.

Back on topic, the workmanship on this car is incredible.

i dont think its contradicting..

facts

-the purpose of the coating is meant to keep the heat in

-the hotter the gas the faster it moves

-heat is wasted power, nothing can be 100% efficient

-the more you control the heat the higher the efficiency..

basic thermodynamics

how well it works (which i dont have proof) and how you take it, whether an advantage or disadvantage is the difference.

and still waiting on results.

[DCIEVE]

i dont think its contradicting..

facts

-the purpose of the coating is meant to keep the heat in

-the hotter the gas the faster it moves

-heat is wasted power, nothing can be 100% efficient

-the more you control the heat the higher the efficiency..

basic thermodynamics

how well it works (which i dont have proof) and how you take it, whether an advantage or disadvantage is the difference.

and still waiting on results.

I know how its 'supposed' to work, the theory is extremely simple...as for thermodynamics, anyone with a basic understanding should be able to interpret the information in the image.

You are contradicting yourself by saying 'its meant to keep heat in' and 'its not meant to keep the dump cool' in the same sentence.

But this is way of topic. It certainly looks good!

[silver gts-t]

ahh k i get what you mean..

i meant not keep it cool "internally"

[Swiper the Fox]

Didnt mean to offend the believers, was just looking for some evidence of it working.. i've forked out over a grand on the stuff in the past as well.

Back on topic, the workmanship on this car is incredible.

This is the internet...a quick "google" of performance ceramic coatings will give you hundreds of examples of where this product has been tested and proven. Like i said before, your example does not mean or prove anything if no before/after comparison is done (this is how i do my testing). Like Silv.is trying to explain and i have also stated earlier in this thread, the coating is done on the turbine side to aid gas flow....not too keep things cool around it, thats the job of heat shields etc.

Thanks for the acknowledgement of our work...its good to see the time, effort and dollars paying off

Edited May 20, 2006 by DiRTgarage

[Swiper the Fox]

silv you asked for results. We have made more than before......but not any more than 450. So I think most people, including us and Jim were all surprised at the small gain.

Unfortunately we are in Port Stephens and the car is in Sydney, so we don't have any graphs to post yet.

Lets just see what it does 2moro.......STACE