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I think its always been like this with the 8's.

My old VS 5ltr 5speed would get around 16l/100km's locally then on the open road a whopping 9.2L/100km's.

Yeah, I think so too man. I guess this is what they were designed for though, freeway cruising.

Yeah, I think so too man. I guess this is what they were designed for though, freeway cruising.

Pre VZ and late VY was the end of lean cruise due to EPA wanting to reduce NOx levels (NOx emmssions go up when there is a lean burn condition) which when combined with photochemical smog causes ozone depleting gases. THis is where they got there good economy from as under crusie conditions the engine was barely running. A typical early model VY GENIII would command an AFR in lean cruise of about 17-18:1. This is how they got there good highway figures.

That said I have no idea how they get those highway figures now. Holden is probably just lying and or enable the test car with lean cruise. Have seen them do dodgier stuff to get around emmissions.

but i saw one of the holdens up close the other day. and from the front it really does look like a lexus, and from the back like a BA falcon.

holden says it was deisgned from the ground up, starting 6 years ago, so it is a 6 year old car. and since it probably looked like a 6 year old car holden just stole the design of current cars to make it look like a new car.

The Commodore range looks good as, the SS especially. It might be the pics i've been looking at of the HSV but the taillights look out of place, seems as though the only changed them for the sake of being different to the commodores.

Those pictures released by HSV just don’t capture the magnificent lines of the car. I love the new HSV design, looks great. It has a sleek, powerful, European and strangely Australian design. I love the new LED lights – even Euro models don’t have LED signal lights. Good job HSV.

With the new MRC suspension this new HSV should out handle most cars on the road. Again good job HSV for introducing a very advanced suspension setup - Only the fifth (?) vehicle to introduce MRC in the world (along with Ferrari’s top of the line model, Audi TT, Corvette and top of the line Cadillacs).

The back actually looks more like a fancied up Audi.

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And I just love the side profile

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Huge ass brakes (remember these are 20 inch rims).

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From Eastonchang and LS1.com.au, visit for more pics.

don't worry holden never does anything for the first time, always catch up. Euro models, at least BMW have had LED for 2-3 years. brake/signals, everything.

Holden will always be behind, i'm not knocking the car... but that's just the way it is.

Car looks mean, lights look weird..

now what do ppl think of a SS/HSV (don't know if they're the same) spoiler on a R34? :O

Pre VZ and late VY was the end of lean cruise due to EPA wanting to reduce NOx levels (NOx emmssions go up when there is a lean burn condition) which when combined with photochemical smog causes ozone depleting gases. THis is where they got there good economy from as under crusie conditions the engine was barely running. A typical early model VY GENIII would command an AFR in lean cruise of about 17-18:1. This is how they got there good highway figures.

That said I have no idea how they get those highway figures now. Holden is probably just lying and or enable the test car with lean cruise. Have seen them do dodgier stuff to get around emmissions.

I believe this to be so as prior to the ecu and cams the old VS on the open road would get around 11L/100km's.

The back of that HSV is absolutely revolting. They musta been drugged when they designed it.

Hahahahah.........its an Astra on the roids...needs to be drugged tested. Major amount of work had to be done on the VE platform to conform with the V8 Supercar blueprint....BAN VE :(

Hahahahah.........its an Astra on the roids...needs to be drugged tested. Major amount of work had to be done on the VE platform to conform with the V8 Supercar blueprint....BAN VE :)

they should have called it the VD model ..it looks like the clap to me...46%of it made in thailand and korea.. hope of some of worst VD around :(

newer spec, improved engy... im liking it... decent suspension you say, read i must.... if they have finaly goten away from the truck rolers, il even consider this over my next car, as so far the choice was going to be an evo.... hmmm... except this will have towing capacity, something to toke my traily's with aye.... hmmmmmm going to look into it.... 2 tonnes though..... not a selling point..... good what 400-600 kilos haevy than evo... apples an oranges yea... but a decent sedan is what i need

haha my next post was gonna be about the laillights being from an MX-5. theyve really raided mazda for design cues...

poor effort. Youd think before they start pressing panels, that theyd have a look at their design and think 'hhmmm. i dunno. it looks like a mazda. maybe we should try originality, just to see how it goes...'

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don`t forget to ask about the 23 components allready recalled ...only been released a week and allready recalls :laugh:

Holden recalls new Commodores

7:48 AM October 19

Holden has issued a national recall of its new Commodore after the discovery of potential fuel problems.

The recall affects VE and WM series models made in July and August this year.

The Federal Government's consumer recalls' website says in extreme cases, the vehicle may develop a fuel leak.

The website says a fuel hose that connects with the main fuel line may have been manufactured incorrectly.

Holden spokeswoman Maya Donevska says concerned customers should contact their dealer.

Ms Donevska says a potential problem with the fuel hose arose during production.

"At one of our supplier plants, during the fuel hose assembly process, there is a chance that a misalignment may occur, if that misalignment may occur, there is a chance that the fuel hose might get a small tear in it," she said.

"Having said that, there's been no reported incidents in the field, it's something that we've picked internally during routine checks."

Source: ABC

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WHAT A DOG !!!! a billion dollars for this POS..

the first in long line of recalls to come no doubt :woot:

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