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oh i also forgot to mention... :P There's also a 400cc version... which is the one you'd get if you wanted to do the performance mods. The 250cc's are simple lil rice buckets.

You guys have to think outside the square... being sheltered in your textbook sexuality world of Australian motoring trends you guys don't seem open to some of the cool shizzle out there in the world.

I mean... if you think this stuff is gay, explain to me the whole point of Choppers and why everyone's gone ga-ga over american bikes with stupidly long forks and retarded seating configurations over a frame that's welded together in a workshop. Is it coz its cool because cable TV said so?

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Shan, if you're using this thread to 'promote' VIP big scooters and hence garner favourable popular opinion... oh never mind :D

Personally, I don't think Australians are ready for it. The amount of abuse from bogans and other retards that you'd cop isn't worth it either. Maybe when fuel hits $2.00/L and the VE Commodore gets pulled from the market... :P

Rezzeh, thank god you saw this thread... well the reason I posted this thread was because so far I hadn't met ANYONE in australia who had even heard of this stuff. Like no one's even mentioned it as a passing joke. Eeeeevery monkey's heard of customised choppers, but no one's ever heard of customised japanese cruisers. And its not like guys here don't have access to the base models to start modding them either... they're in almost every motorbike dealership at the back because no one wants em.

Seriously scooter is a bad name for these bikes, they're like cruisers. Hell even BMW and Buell are starting to release copies of these japanese big scooters.

Youd be mad to buy one of those, with the thought of modifying it. LOL :P

While unique, the money needed to make it a) handle & b) go/stop is outrageous. Remember where you are riding - be safe about it. Id have little confidence in a scooter in a big situation (aquaplanning, pothole, emergency braking procedure, etc), whereas with a 'proper' bike youve generally got quality components to help aid your control on the handling.

Better off buying a used 96 ZX7R Ninja for 5k, or a VTR 1000 Firestorm of same era for same $, etc. Or in liue of 5k for that and spending a little getting it sorted for daily commuting, why not a 99 model ZX9R or Fireblade - both particulalry comfy allrounders (had both). Maybe a streetfighter tho is whats called for, there are alot of mean streetfighter bikes available for under 10k, 9k, 8k, whatever your end budget might be for a scooter. Hell, you can get a nice 1994 ZXR750 Ninja for 4k, they go damn nice!

A 'proper' bie can be cheap to commute on, in a sense, but yet mind-boggling unbelieveable fun, with power handling and braking ability that is so much 'safer' in my opinion than a scooter / 250cc hack (generally any 250cc is a hack unless its had 20g thrown at it, to race) - and youd get drawn in to the weekend rides, finding the curviest route on your way.

Flame me, meh - but since becoming a rider almost 9yrs ago, the feeling is that I'll always be a rider. At the moment tho sadly I have to step off. :D

Good luck with your choice. Be safe and stay aware - DONT get complacent while riding.

Brendan

OK I might have deviated a little from why I want to get a 250cc bike/scooter personally, just to show you guys the cool mods you can do on the scooters.

But the end goal isn't to go fast, or to take curves etc. Its to have a fun, comfortable ride to and from work, in the daytime, in traffic. I have an R32 and a track car and an understanding woman to unleash my testosterone on.

The big scooters have regular motorbike spec brakes, the handling may be a little awkward, but a lot of people around the world seem to be of the belief that feet first riding is far safer and stable than a regular crouched motorbike configuration.

At the end of the day its cheaper to just buy a 250cc bike, due to the cut throat prices you can buy em at, but a 250cc scooter's not that different... and when guys in australia think of scooters they seem to associate them with dinky lil vespas and other gayeties that have sub 100cc engines. These are pretty much the VIP Lexus LS400's, Infiniti Q45/President and Chrysler 300C's of the motorbike world.

Well just by reading your comments Shan I can see you're mentally and emotionally prepared to undertake some Nippon styles along the lines of Kawaii_hatchi_roku and his 'ganguro' fetish...

UNLEASH THE VIP BIG SCOOTER!

DO IT!

... do it...

Well just by reading your comments Shan I can see you're mentally and emotionally prepared to undertake some Nippon styles along the lines of Kawaii_hatchi_roku and his 'ganguro' fetish...

That's right rezz...

f**k you all by my middel finger!

I'll be posting more pics of these things till you all yeild to the power of the scooter-side.

I can see the logic behind getting a scooter for daily inner-city commute, but don't get it with the intention of modding it further than a new screen. Use it purely as cheap transport.

I suspect the reason for these things being popular with modders in places like Tokyo is that these would probably be the only practical form of these people own. They wouldn't have a decent non-Kei car or a 1000cc bike, they would just be too impractical. They haven't taken off much here because it's still completely realistic for us to own a full-sized car, a decent motorbike, or even more than one of each - why would we want to play with a scooter? That said, things are very quickly getting to the stage it's almost worth considering one, at which point you may start to see them being modded.

If you're worried about it affecting your testicular fortitude though, my personal opinion on scooters is the same as for rice - it's your money, do with it what you will and anyone who gives you crap for spending your money how you like can go **** themselves. You can't stop people from calling you a poof though :(

Haha, damn, I must be the only other person that think they are alright.

I particularly like the 125cc supercharged scooter.

I use to ride a zzr-250 but can honestly say it's not that comfortable for long trips. having never ridden long distant on a scooter, but I presume the have to offer more comfort.

Rememeber, you will say on parking aswell. and if any of them came with that hot japanese promo girl, I'd get one tomorrow.

Can you imagine rolling up in something like that to an outlaw biker pub on a Saturday afternoon, and parking it in the same row as all the customised Harley choppers ?

Then poncing into the bar in your brightly coloured leathers and ordering a flavoured milk ?

Why not ask them their opinion of your really cool trendy transport ?

Man I own a scooter... and my cock is HUGE... no seriously...

Hahahahaha in all honesty i paid 3.5K for mine and its saved me that in fuel in 6 months i swear to god, I just take it to work n back n sometimes down to the shop.

You look liek a f**kign dickhead no matter what, but if your not a faggy little prissy metro gaylord, and you dont give a shit what ppl think, they are great.

Costs me 7 bucks a week and i ride it everyday about 20km's, its nothing to rego, insure and maintain and bitches love it.... >_<

You look liek a f**kign dickhead no matter what, but if your not a faggy little prissy metro gaylord, and you dont give a shit what ppl think, they are great.

:D

I love it :) Probably not the most PC way of putting it but this man speaks the truth lol

Shan.

You have to make the decision because you're going up against what is essentially something really really unique about Australia.

If you wear a scarf, you're gay. If you ride a scooter you're gay.

The morale of the story is - Australia and it's population is largely a noob at dealing with cultural issues.

Having said that - I like the look of older school road bikes. CBR etcs. Something ghetto about them hehe

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