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It was the lap they before they were about to go green...it wouldnt be hard to imagine hamilton trying to bunch the field up, he did it on an a number of occasions but he has every right to do so...if thats the case, webber saw it but vettel didnt react fast enough. the germans fault, plain and simple, no matter the explanation.

Yeh, but cant say i agree with the way he was bunching up the cars. Sure, a bit of sportsmanship is fine...but in piss poor visibility it shoud be black flagged for the whole darting, brakign mid corner and big variations on gaps to the pace car.

Stil, hardly LHs fault. But i think the FIA need to have a look at re-starts, especially in the heavy rain/poor visibility

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awsome race!

good to see Ferrari pushing the limits , in the race and in the rules :) typically Ferrari style and i love it :cheers: BUT they really need to get there act together they f**ked up Massa big time, having to pit because he wasnt fueled to the end of the race he could have easily finish 4, starting on the inter. med. tyres was the worst idea but in true Ferrari style they had to try something lol.

Unlucky for alonso, i was really hoping he would win this race so the championship would go down to the wire, but its motorsport. and m3gtr i think you should give some more credit to Alonso as he is a great driver, i dont think he just crack and spun out, he car was badly damage.

FFS about webber, i dont support him but come on what a drive to get into second place then to he hit from behide under a safety car, lol love his comment in ture Australian style telling it how it is and not surge coating it.

And m3gtr, yes hamilton is a good driver but i think you need to get out of his asshole lol :P

lol interesting read here

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2766409,00.html

LOL!! sorry if you dont like it mate, just saying it like it is...

but about this asshole thing... :):huh:

Unlucky for alonso, i was really hoping he would win this race so the championship would go down to the wire, but its motorsport. and m3gtr i think you should give some more credit to Alonso as he is a great driver, i dont think he just crack and spun out, he car was badly damage.

FA's car wasnt that bad... It was still drivable but he was already scattered from a race full of mistakes. He overdrove and underwhelmed today.

I think hes the one cracking under the pressure, not LH.

no assholes about that michael mate! :P:cheers:

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Sebastian Vettel

“I made a good start and the race was going well.

Cliquez ici...

Then, with the final safety car, I was behind Lewis and Mark and exiting Turn 13, I looked to the right and saw Lewis going really slowly, I don’t know why, but I thought he had a problem. Probably he was heating his brakes. Then, by the time I looked forward again, I was already in the back of Mark’s car and I think he had also reacted to Lewis. I apologise now to Mark because I ruined both our races.”

got this from F1-live

Lewis Hamilton - "We had the safety car and I was constantly on to my engineers to say tell the Red bull team to tell Mark (Webber) to make a little bit more of a gap, as with the pace car in front I couldn't go any faster."

LH is a whinging bitch if he was on the radio saying that....

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Sebastian Vettel

“I made a good start and the race was going well.

Cliquez ici...

Then, with the final safety car, I was behind Lewis and Mark and exiting Turn 13, I looked to the right and saw Lewis going really slowly, I don’t know why, but I thought he had a problem. Probably he was heating his brakes. Then, by the time I looked forward again, I was already in the back of Mark’s car and I think he had also reacted to Lewis. I apologise now to Mark because I ruined both our races.”

got this from F1-live

double post michael...dont you READ anything>..? :P:cheers:

It seems Vettels clash with Alonso also led to the failure of the car that left him spinning out of the GP. Dont be too quick to judge m3gtr. I loved the interview with LH/s father pre GP. Just pouring fuel on the whole fire by saying, "team mate??? Lewis doesnt have one of those...his dad wont speak to me blah, blah, blah" Grow up and stop trying to play the all too innocent card...something the British press love and encourage

Christian Horner

“In Formula One you face many emotions and today Mark was driving a fantastic race. He had food poisoning this morning, which he was battling with and he even threw up in the car during the initial pace-car period. In true Aussie fashion, he kept pushing and today he was quick enough to win the race. Obviously, it was very disappointing that an incident happened behind the pace car but, on days like today, I guess anything can happen.

Also LH is making noise about Webber under the pace car. LOL...maybe he shoudl look at the vids and re-visit just how he was driving when behind the pace car :P Maybe he owes Alonso a beer because if not for the pace car from his incident we may have got to see if Webber could have got past LH...the pace was with Webber, and with LH defending a points gap i dont think he woudl have fought that hard with Mark, though Mark typically isnt too harsh.stupid when trying to overtake

How are annoying is the commentry.. the most annoying was when someone flew into the side of hamiltons car and in their most disgusted voice they say 'oh that was just rude'.. true whinging pom style. They still cant get over Button, shits me to tears.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DCnxRymgvvY

Have a look at this. Look when they cut to Webber to see how close Hamilton was to the spinning Webber. Is it me or does that suggest that perhaps Hamilton was far closer to the incident. The more i watch it the more im thinking that Lewis must have slowed massively for positions two and third to have collided and still be basically alongside Hamilton after a spin!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell me im wrong?

I think your spot on Roy, looks like bitch boy could be partly to blame. Good pick up. Did you also see Webbers massive deep breath once his out of the car, staring at the track and thinking 'what could have been'! Times like these you need minties moment!

..... Is it just me, or am I not the only one thinking that Hamilton has no right to tell Webber to back off?

If he was too close, he would have hit Hamilton. He was well within his rights to get as close as he did. Problem is that Vettel wasn't paying attention, and he even admits that he looked forward, looked away for a bit, then looked forward again when the collision happened.

Seriously, F1 is a sport decided by nanoseconds. What idiot decides to look in any direction but forward. Where the hell was he looking? At some chick in a raincoat?

Have a look at this. Webber has spun and Vettel already rammed Webber....but look how close they are to Hamilton. To me its seeming he jumped on the anchors and caused the accident. No doubt Vettel is still at fault, but come on.

So is Webber saying kid or kids??????

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They realy should have showed Webbers on-board camera.

And they'v penalised Vettel for is actions

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...930133128.shtml

Stewards’ at the Japanese Grand Prix have this evening handed Sebastian Vettel a penalty that he will have to carry on to next weekend’s Chinese Grand Prix, AFP France is reporting.

The Toro Rosso racer ran into the back of second placed Mark Webber whist running behind the safety car this afternoon at Fuji Speedway. The incident eliminated both himself and Webber from the rain-hit race.

Vettel will take a ten position penalty into qualifying next Saturday in Shanghai and will therefore almost certainly start at the back of the field.

Vettel, distraught after returning to the Toro Rosso pit, said he took his eyes off the action when he noticed Lewis Hamilton heating his brakes.

"By the time I looked forward again, I was already in the back of Mark's car and I think he had also reacted to Lewis," the German said. "I apologise now to Mark because I ruined both our races."

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