Cheap Ebay Turbos

[Pauly33GTS-t]

I was looking at ebay turbos before I said, "f*kit im gonna get a garret and blow a few thou" and I tell you wat GARRETT/HKS > HIFLOW > KKR > REST OF CHINESE SHIT. Never lookin back. Garrett GT3076R ftw.

Edited March 13, 2007 by Pauly33GTS-t

[NicsR33]

i asked this question to ppl who already bought turbos off this one seller. most of them right up positive feedback because they recieved not because they had it installed. anyways i emailed a few ppl and most of them said that the turbos are good for low boost applications (around 7-9psi) and that they are cheap chinese copies.

i would stay away because last thing you want is one of these blowing up and then having to spend twice as much getting a new turbo and fixing any problems the blown turbo caused.

[Stel]

I asked the guys at JustJap.

They said there turbos are made by Ottomoto, same company that makes the KKR turbos.

They are basically the KKR's with different branding.

[teazn_r33]

i had on a super t70 work awsome not on low boost eithre running 22psi after 2 year done a seal so i got it rebuilt but after the rebuild the turbo fail 4 month later on 12 psi the ppl that rebuilt it wont take responability for the rebuild i brought this turbo 3 years ago work fine untill someone rebuilt it i am now goin through consumer affiars so the ppl that rebuilt it take responabilty for it

i have seen t70s with a totally diffrent built such bad quality now i must have being lucky

so really its a lucky dip i now have a garrett 35/40 and i know now thats wat ill be sticking with

no point taking the risk

[WazR32GTSt]

I asked the guys at JustJap.

They said there turbos are made by Ottomoto, same company that makes the KKR turbos.

They are basically the KKR's with different branding.

so does this make them better than the "ebay chinese copy" turbos that everyone brands most turbos with?

[tmc_2]

I believe the KKR otomoto ones are different to these ebay chinese copies.

They are nasty and cost the retailer stuff all for the T70 and other copies. From what ive seen of availablility of chinses turbos the KKR is a different beast and more expensive from the wholesaler.

[_8OO5TED_]

Chinese + moving parts = Steer clear.....

[tmc_2]

Chinese + moving parts = Steer clear.....

I was going to try and challenge this with an example of a chinese made item with moving parts that is exceptional, but i cant think of any thing? lol :S

Thunbps up for the Intercoolers,radiators and some of their other parts tho lol

[SimonR32]

Chinese + moving parts = Steer clear.....

why dont u steal my line next time matt

coolers, radiators, oil coolers for the win

moving parts for the loose

[Thunderbolt]

so does this make them better than the "ebay chinese copy" turbos that everyone brands most turbos with?

Well I believe KKR is made in Korea, so the answer is "one would think so".

[R31Nismoid]

The KKR's are made in China from what i can gather.

Not everything out of China is neccesarily bad you know. People would be surprised to see what parts they might buy that were actually made thier and you wouldnt even pick it as the quality is good. Aust businesses wouldnt be selling stuff that would potentially bring them undone, thats just silly.

Its just the knock-off products you need to be wary off from the "unheard of" places over Ebay etc etc.

The actual *legit* decent stuff from China isnt all that bad. Its just there is a lot of crap bringing down the names of the few that are reasonably decent.

[WazR32GTSt]

fair point, ash

its interesting that a huge company like justjap with a good reputation as a business supplying decent parts at a good price, would put their name to something like these turbos.. they must have seen something in them..

[R31Nismoid]

They are cheap, and reliable... and another product for a business line.

They might not be the best designed turbo in the world in terms of what you can purchase though.

[SOOKIE]

In High performance Imports Mag, they said KKR was a Korean turbo and supply Volkswagens and other cars with their turbos from memory. Apparently the KKR turbos are pretty reliable and produce good power, they're just a bitch to fit.

I'm looking at getting a turo soon too. Anyone on here bought and fitted a hypergear turbo? they are also cheap but are from Korea

[DennisRB30]

I got a cheap ebay turbo on my car. Its a genuine GT35R from a XR6 turbo. Keep your eye out as these seem to go for around the 1K mark on a regular basis.

[ULOOOK]

GT35R FTW

As for the cheap e-bay turbos. You would be lucky if its still intact by the end of a full day of tuning.

[paulr33]

also just some other notes in regards to cheap ebay turbos / cheap seller turbo's

more often that not there are some key differences

- wierd flanges or dump patterns (kkr, monsta t70 etc i dont think mate at all to standard parts and need their own bits)

- plain bearing, journal bearing (majority of the cheapies aren't ball bearing)

- oil cooled only (usually the cheapies are oil cooled only)

- lack of compressor map / details available (usually monsta STAGE 3 hiflow super wheel blah blah type jargon, no real reference to compressor trim,blade type)

but they are exactly that, a cheap alternative. im not saying the dont work but there are extra things you should be aware of and need to know if using them. some need extensive modificaitons, some dont need much at all. some require extensive knowledge for fitmet (oil line changes to remove BB restrictor) and some have extra "gotcha's" when using them over the standard turbo (non BB unit and instant car off risks bearing failure)

so sure its a $650 turbo thats capable of 550hp but look at the overall plan and solution and see what you are really getting.

with an off the shelf garrett unit you can ring gcg in sydney, discuss flange/dump options, manifolds, you can ask for compressor maps (no guess work) and work out the optimum solution, but that also comes at a price. a price for reliability, knowledge, customer support (compressor maps, blade options, housing options etc) and help

[rev210]

i had on a super t70 work awsome not on low boost eithre running 22psi after 2 year done a seal so i got it rebuilt but after the rebuild the turbo fail 4 month later on 12 psi

great a new turbo that lasts only 2 years! Sounds like a peice of crap.

[LBR33]

In High performance Imports Mag, they said KKR was a Korean turbo and supply Volkswagens and other cars with their turbos from memory. Apparently the KKR turbos are pretty reliable and produce good power, they're just a bitch to fit.

I'm looking at getting a turo soon too. Anyone on here bought and fitted a hypergear turbo? they are also cheap but are from Korea

The owner of HPI is also the owner of Ottomoto/KKR so that opinion may be a bit biased

[R31Nismoid]

The owner of HPI is also the owner of Ottomoto/KKR so that opinion may be a bit biased

Of course its bias. I totally agree.

Ben Ellis (ottomoto/HPI) wouldnt slander your own product now would he hehe :sorcerer:

Dont trust everything you read, especially magazines that have vested interests