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dangerous_daveo Grand Master

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I'd say he doesnt do any work.. or atleast not anywork for anyone. either born into wealthy family or investor/entrepeneur

Dont forget the GT-R is still testing.. and i dont think they will release any final figures for the times they are getting until the car is released.. if at all.

Interesting article i read about the next GT-R that i think u all should read.

V36 Skyline GT-R Evolution

Was the 959 really a groub b rally car?!?! i thought it was more designed to compete against the ferrari f40? or atleast provide ferrari f40 performance with luxury to boot. Dont flame me if im wrong please.. thats just what i have been told and always believed

Well it was designed for groub B, but they never compeated. The 959s were back in the early 80s, pretty sure that was before the F40s, as ferrari had that other turbo thing which I cant remember the model number of right now. They did use them for dakar tho. And won...

Oh and a big high 5 to scathing! haha! :wub:

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Roy Grand Master

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Monkey beat me to it...though it was the Evoluzione that was the real F40 in drag

Well it was designed for groub B, but they never compeated. The 959s were back in the early 80s, pretty sure that was before the F40s, as ferrari had that other turbo thing which I cant remember the model number of right now. They did use them for dakar tho. And won...

Oh and a big high 5 to scathing! haha! :wub:

You mean the 288 GTO Evoluzione A very cool thing!

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Whiplash Grand Master

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But my sister and a few friends are over there working. just need to to wire them the money. Get them to go shopping and when the time has elapsed get them to bring it home for a great XMAS. Want a T350C, more likley a V8 Cerbera, but funds may mean i get a Sierra Cosworth

or you could do some work for TVR motorsport, and get them to send you a racing one for track days :) now i just need to find the money

700HP-GTR33 Mentor

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What started out as a general topic to help out a father...ended up as a shit fight between Porsche and Nissan.

Stick to the facts boys.....the next generation GTR will be like a soft sponge.....suited for the mass buyer.

Really once you have driven a Porsche most of your life...it is hard to get into anything else........

So 997 second hand(N/A)....90K Approx...for a good one...and he will be happy.

He might be swayed into an AudiTT or any other European convertable though...so he has alot of choices here.

I would if he was serious about letting you come up with ideas...get him to drive a GTR34...just let him know you can organise the leather and a sun-roof later...this might sway him.

32vspecII Mentor

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i have driven in a porche 911 gt3

and i have driven in a full house 10sec gtr

and the gtr ate it for breakfast

if i bought a late model 34 gtr and built it to be a 10 second car i would still have heaps left over instead of buying a similar porche

and thats what its all about

the gtr was a revolution back in 89 because it offered porche/ferrari performance for 1/3 the price and it still does end of of story . the new gtr will do the same , it doesnt have to be faster , it just has to get close because its massive cost benefit will pull it way over the line in terms of value

if your dad wants maximum performance per dollar the gtr will never be beaten . if he doesnt then he can buy whatever . maybe get an old classic porche if performance is not the issue

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A GT-R is NOT a GT (despite what the name suggests). it is a fairly uncompromising, narrowly focused racing car. they are LOUD, HOT (anyone notice the complete lack of air circulation inside the R33's cabin and the amount of sweat it generates on the driver's back?), they consume an unbelievable amount of petrol, have an uncomfortable ride and they have shit stock clutches. if your dad is willing to live with these inconveniances (as i am) then he will love a GT-R.

but you already said that he doesn't like the way your GT-R drives, so as a day to day car, i would have to assume that the porsche would be far better than a GT-R.

Better still, tell your dad to get an M3, he can always throw on a pair of turbos if it isn't fast enough! ;)

scathing Grand Master

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if i bought a late model 34 gtr and built it to be a 10 second car i would still have heaps left over instead of buying a similar porche

and thats what its all about

People who buy GT-Rs to make a quarter mile machine aren't getting the point of a GT-R. Or a Porsche.

I could build a 9 second VS Commodore for less than your late model 10 second R34 GT-R. But I'm guessing that's no longer what its all about when its against your prejudices instead of for it.

Or I could buy a brand new superbike and run 10s with a V-Max of over 300km/hr on my way out of the showroom floor, reassured that this level of performance comes with a full manufacturer's warranty.

Back on topic and in the land of lucidity, $80K might get you an older E46 M3. They're a nice GT. Comfy, refined, and reasonably quick. But, its no Porsche in terms of feel or badge cachet. If he's after something cruisier, you should be able to find a reasonable Mercedes coupe.

philta Community Regular

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lol, interesting debate.

ive been lucky enough to get to drive a decent tuned r32gtr once. not soo lucky to drive a 04 911 turbo but had a good fang in one, i didnt think my mates uncle would let me drive it anyways. but we are really comparing "oranges to apples"

i just couldnt believe when i was in the porsche of how well it handled, car felt like it drove itself around the corners, it balanced itself even if u were over speeding into the corner and the "stability control" was.....boring yet safe to me.

the point is nissan never made the gtr to compete with the porsche 911 fullstop!

new gtr isnt even released so the full stats cant be compared. and how the hell is a 280 hp stock gtr get compared to a porky. this is a skyline forum offcourse ur gunna get hardcore support for the gtr. but any1 in their right mind would know that porsche is equiped with better technology than the r34gtr.

chill out guys, any 80k car would f**ken rock.

but for a more mature driver porsche>nissan imo

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People who buy GT-Rs to make a quarter mile machine aren't getting the point of a GT-R. Or a Porsche.

your missing the point

i am simply using the 10 second gtr as a generalisation for a fullhouse modified gtr . obviously you need to further modify and exploit its other areas . and i agree the gtrs strengths are not its strait line power output

same story though , i can build a much quicker car than a porche using a gtr as a base $ for $ . and thats the gtrs success

if you want smothness and niceties and comfortable ride , that wouldnt be a car for you tho

phunky_monkey Grand Master

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What started out as a general topic to help out a father...ended up as a shit fight between Porsche and Nissan.

Stick to the facts boys.....the next generation GTR will be like a soft sponge.....suited for the mass buyer.

Really once you have driven a Porsche most of your life...it is hard to get into anything else........

So 997 second hand(N/A)....90K Approx...for a good one...and he will be happy.

He might be swayed into an AudiTT or any other European convertable though...so he has alot of choices here.

I would if he was serious about letting you come up with ideas...get him to drive a GTR34...just let him know you can organise the leather and a sun-roof later...this might sway him.

Second hand 997's for 90k... I'll take two! I think you'll find you'll get an old 3.4 996 for that price.

Philta: From most reports I've seen the GT-R was built to compete with the 911 turbo...

scathing Grand Master

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I agree... E46 M3, Optioned up 19s, SMG. Done deal >_<

Mate just bought one of these, in an Individual colour scheme.

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He's ordering some optional 19" rims from the US for it, I think.

Its got a fair amount of poke in its stock trim - its noticably quicker than my Z in a straight line, its certainly more comfortable and of a better build quality.

Not sure how much a Convertible will go for, but the coupe's even more of a weapon.

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