Turbo for R33 GTS-t

[gjb977]

Hi there,

I have to get a new turbo for my GTSt as the old (stock) one died a sudden death. The guys doing the job have been ringing around to see what will fit my car with minimum fuss. (bearing one - not ceramic).

I know (from reading other posts mainly) that there are quite a few different turbos that people use but everyone the performance guy's spoke to said nothing will just bolt on but you will have to do ALOT of plumbing. (and hence make the job more and more expensive.) I want to get some change out of $3000 for the job.

Is this true? Is there anything that will just bolt on (or not require hours and hours of extra plumbing work)

Thanks

Guy

[sidewaymambo]

change from 3000? bargain..check :

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...=&threadid=4706

[Steve]

If you want straight bolt on - get a high flow, no messing with pipework, oil lines etc.

Shoud be well under 3k fitted

[51jay]

Get your dead turbo hi flowed but remember you want to keep the ball bearing typy body.

[gjb977]

Thanks for the quick responses. Pardon my complete and utter ignorance, but what does "hi flowed" mean ?

Guy

[Freebaggin]

Hey gjb977,

Could tell me under what situation did the turbo fail? What is your engine set up, any mods? What boost etc? Were you driving hard on a race track? etc etc

Cheers,

Lachlan.

[gjb977]

Hi Lachlan,

To cut a very long story short, my car dealer missdiagnosed an oil leak from the turbo area of car. Nothing to worry about I was told. Fix at next service. Said a oil pipe must have gone brittle. They do that with the heat etc...

I ordered a Microtech ECU and decided to get everything tuned, services etc when the computer came in. This however took about four months.

When the service guy took the housing of the Turbo to fix leak, he discovered that the seal was rooted and there was a HEAP of 'play' in there. (I could presssomething in and out that I shouldn't have been able to)

He even refuses to drive the car in his workshop as he is scared the turbo will break/seize (whatever they do when wrecked !)

I had the boost set on standard. I do not drive hard at all. I have never raced my car. However I now believe the previous owner did.

It used to have a HKS EVC with boost set to 12psi. I am now selling that. It has a huge intercooler now. Fuel cut off defender ??? POD, and I think a heap of other stuff. The mechanic said 'My car should be sponcered by HKS !!'

I am really annoyed at the moment as I have to pay for a new turbo just four months after I bought the car. Even though the thing was on the way out when I bought the car !

Sorry for this rant, but I am left with a sick feeling in my stomach over all this... I don't know who to blame - me for not knowing anything about these cars when I bought it or the car dealer seeing me coming !

Thanks

Guy

[DREMEN]

The problem is that most ceramic turbos are "on their way out"

Think about the car being around 7 years old, and most people don't buy a performance car to drive around slowly in.

Most if not all import performance cars have been thrashed in their lives!

Thats just part and parcel of buying an import.

Perhaps if you wanted to drive a car slowly then a holden would of been more suited to your needs

[hungry6]

well pointed out DREMEN..

[Steve]

Hi flow, is when they take off the turbine and compressor covers and bore them out, allowing bigger (steel) wheels to be placed in there.

If you dont have alot of money to spend, you could buy a good second hand turbo for $400-$700 and put that on. If you want to high flow your old one when you have the money, and sell the 2nd hand one that you put on in the mean time to recoupe the money you spent.

Just some ideas

[DREMEN]

High flow involves:

Turbine Wheel - replaced and upgraded with a inconel(steel) wheel , either stage 1 or 2

Compressor Wheel - replaced and upgraded with T04 wheel, either stage 1 or 2

Bearing Pack - replace with an XTR ball bearing package

Turbine Housing - machine to accept either of the larger wheels

Compressor Housing - machined to accept either of the larger hi flow wheels

Wastegate Actuator - standard or upgradeable to have higher boost pressure as standard

[gjb977]

Actually DREMEN, I never thought about it that way ! I don't drive slowely - I just don't race the car at the strip. When computer, "TURBO" etc are done though I will see what I can do the 1/4 in though...

I want to see how I go against some of the hot Starlets/GTiR's/etc that are around Toowoomba !!

Anyway , thanks again for help people...

Catcha

[DREMEN]

You will much these little hot starlets

But the GTiRs might have you

[Maxx]

i do want to high flow my standard tubro even it's still working fine, how much it going to cost me to high flow it and what sort of power it will produce?

thanks

[DREMEN]

I have been quoted from GCG:

Stage 1 = $2250.00 Rated @ 400hp

Stage 2 = $2450.00 Rated @ 450hp, does require other mods i.e. intercooler, fuel, etc

[Freebaggin]

gjb977,

Unless you have good reason, I'd keep the HKV EVC, nice thing to have from scratch, gotta have good boost control, particularly with bigger turbo. Is it stuffed?

[gjb977]

Freebaggin,

No it's not stuffed. Actually what happend was I had an alarm fitted, and the when I got the car back all the boost settings were gone and it was a real pain to reset everything. Real pain.

A mate offered me $500 for it (an old BMW he has done up - 12 seconds !!) and the guy at the performance centre said that I didn't need it when the Microtech was fitted so I took the cash.

Aparently I can bet a much better one for $800 if I realy wanted one. (not sure what brand though - Autospeed.com have been advertising them lately)

[gjb977]

The guy at the performacnce centre actually chose a turbo this arvo. I will get the specs tommow. I know it is rated to 500hp and can easily be boosted to 20lb. it is $2300 + fitting (approx $400) - (I just have to sell my TV/stereo/video camera first - lol, so I can afford it.)

He said later on I can then up the injectors and do something simple to the turbo (I forget what he said) and "It will really get crackin" He mentioned 300HP at the wheels !!

[Guest INASNT]

mate i have just spend near 5 grand on my engine and components! I am still undecided on the turbo 2 get.

Have a look at the new hks 2835 pro s, thats what i am leaning towards

[rob77]

gjb977 just remember the stock engine internals wont like running at anything above 16-17psi for long/hard periods, the injectors will need replacing to keep up with the flow plus you'll need an aftermarket ecu to make the most of it all without a little bit of careful thought you could end up doing more damage then good. Do searches on these forums, you'll find a lot of information on them for pretty good sources in regards to what you can and cant do on the stock internal engine.