Beer Rev Limiter With Pfc

[ardie]

Well I have heard many contradicting opinions but none of them have actually come from somebody who is running one on their car SOOOOOO I was wondering, do any of you run your PFC and BeeR rev limiter side by side?

Cheers

Ryan

[Guilt-Toy]

it does not matter about the ecu. its ecu independant.

[ardie]

yeah thats what i thought, but i read a thread from the UK aswell as a HPI review and both said you couldnt run it if you have a PFC, which seemed a little weird to me aswell but i thought it wouldnt hurt to check before handing out my hard earned.

[Beer Baron]

well some people in japan also told me they are not compatible. It's possible they are not. remember the Bee-R is basically an interceptor... so yes it does have to work along side the PFC.

only one way to find out though.... but it and tell us what happens.

to be honest they are a bit of a wank. they don't do much except cause some slow damage to your car and make you like like a bit of a tool. unless we are talking for a dedicated drag car, in which case go for it.

[Guilt-Toy]

your probly better off going for the gizzmo version from your local autobarn store. for around $400 they have been installed in many r33's with power fc's

[B-Man]

OK - so this may be a silly question but why would you need a rev limiter when you can do that on the PFC ? Obviously I am missing something.

[SKY 34]

b man, the Bee*R rev limiter does not mean fuel cut as vehicle reached certain RPM

the rev limiter is a device used to cut sparks at pre-set condition, so you'll have fuel going through the exhaust valves and igniting in manifold, making flames shoot out of exhaust. there are two conditions that can be chosen, the rev and the launch I think.

[BAMR33]

yeah thats what i thought, but i read a thread from the UK aswell as a HPI review and both said you couldnt run it if you have a PFC, which seemed a little weird to me aswell but i thought it wouldnt hurt to check before handing out my hard earned.

That's BS, HPI installed a Bee*R rev limiter in their 4 door 32 with a PFC.

Works with my PFC too.

[BAMR33]

b man, the Bee*R rev limiter does not mean fuel cut as vehicle reached certain RPM

the rev limiter is a device used to cut sparks at pre-set condition, so you'll have fuel going through the exhaust valves and igniting in manifold, making flames shoot out of exhaust. there are two conditions that can be chosen, the rev and the launch I think.

You can also hook a micro switch up to the clutch pedal on the secondary limiter for a very primitive anti-lag set setup. Works though

[furryfrog]

so its pretty much a 2 step launch control to build boost off the line which will probably blow your cat out and smash up your turbine?

[RRob]

Using bee*r with a pfc allows you to see the fantastic knock numbers produced.

And it does cut fuel ASWELL as spark.

[midnight]

with pfc you need to run another earth to the bee-r

simple enough

[Kaido_RR]

with pfc you need to run another earth to the bee-r

simple enough

correct

on the bee-r website it states that there may be grounding issue when running the rev limitter and the pfc together

[Bass Junky]

WORKS.

Edited August 10, 2007 by Bass Junky

[MADGT4]

Still in two minds about getting one and installing it...

Purely to use at the 1/4

But smashing it off the limiter (BeeR limiter) and launching it wont make my gearbox happy i dont think.

Im not running a cat also but ive hear there will be jack sheit left in your muffler after using these too? (Sorry to hi-jack)

[SKY 34]

Using bee*r with a pfc allows you to see the fantastic knock numbers produced.

And it does cut fuel ASWELL as spark.

doupt it cuts fuel, otherwise there won't be flames shooting out at all...I don't get how you'll have high knocks as well? I think the Bee*R randomly cuts spark from one of the 6 cylinders? there's only 3 wires going out of the Bee*R unit if I remember correctly... without spark the fuel won't ignite at all, ignition by compresion alone requires extremely high comp ratio. so no combustion for particular cylinder,

knock is more of sporadic combustion, one main flame and smaller pockets of flame as pistons move up...

+ I dun think it has the function of antilag at launch, looks like it with flame shooting, but because its only 1 cylinder and there's no spark at all, antilag is like retarding the timing so that some fuel exits the exhaust from all the cylinders to put more cha cha in the car.

The main damage is probably to the manifold and exhaust turbine. The main function is to eliminate fuel cut at red line, so the vehicle does not loose power as vehicle stays in red line.

[SimonR32]

Using bee*r with a pfc allows you to see the fantastic knock numbers produced.

And it does cut fuel ASWELL as spark.

my pfc and bee-r never actually gave me any big knock readings, but when you hit the bee-r limiter the engine check light did come on, im assuming its because the pfc is detecting a error in the ignition which is what the bee-r is designed for.

i had mine installed for good launches on boost, but turns out my car is responsive enough not to need it

[alpinestars]

my pfc and bee-r never actually gave me any big knock readings, but when you hit the bee-r limiter the engine check light did come on, im assuming its because the pfc is detecting a error in the ignition which is what the bee-r is designed for.

i had mine installed for good launches on boost, but turns out my car is responsive enough not to need it

when i had mine both connected i had high knock readings and yer a couple months down the track blew the rings on my motor

[Kaido_RR]

when i had mine both connected i had high knock readings and yer a couple months down the track blew the rings on my motor

lol nothing to do with bee-r all to do with your tune .....

also miss firing system > beer

[Bass Junky]

What it does is confuse the CAS sensor, thus not allowing the PFC or Engine comp to know when to fire the coils.

The knock values only show up when there is a big back fire and it's only the shock of the fire ball in your exhaust that is making that knock.

If you tune the gain on the Bee*R down to a reasonably level, it doesn't really sound any different to your normal fuel cut limiter.

I can build about 5 psi at 0 kph with the Bee*R. lift hand brake, depress right foot, stutter stutter, boost up.

It's tops..... but traction is a litle bit of a problem. I'll be hooking up to the clutch before deca.