What Sump And Pick Up? 26 Into 33gts-t

[sic200]

hi people. did a search.. couldn't find nuffin. i'm pretty sure i can use an rb20 sump on my rb26 right? but wat pickup to use? would it be better to use an rb25 sump or vl rb30? are they bigger in capacity? thanks for any help

p.s its an rb26 going into a rwd r33 GTS

[R31Nismoid]

RB26 sump - remove the diff, a decent fabricator should be able to do this quite easily.

The 26 sump gives support to the block, the 25 sump etc is very very thin.

Go with what Nissan designed

[sic200]

don't have one. don't wana buy one. heaps of people have used the 20/25/30 sumps, just wana know wat combination is best. as much as i'd like to use a 26 one. it'd cost to much to do. a; the purchase.. and then b; the mods and cost of welding. anyone heard or seen anything about the highenergy sumps?

[R31Nismoid]

You'd pay for a HE sump (which i wouldnt even use), but it costs too much to buy/mod a stocker?

You'll find its a lot cheaper to get a modified/stock compared to a HE item

[T04GTR]

have ya looked at what bolts the sump to the enging buddy? it aint no m6 bolts dude and you will notice the BLANKED OFF oil pick up in the block. (corect me if im wrong,there are tapped hols but thats it yes?)

USE A GTR SUMP WITH NO DIFF

and ps.. hi energy sump is shit and fowls on the swaybar

[T04GTR]

ps.. if money is an issue the WTF are yopu doing putting a 26 in your car for..

[sic200]

everyone is on a budget smartass. i never said i wanted to use the high energy sump. i was asking if anyone has heard anything about em, this is a forum isn't it? a place were you ask shit. everyone on here is trying to do shit to a budget, the cheaper the better. sorry i asked.

[rb30dett]

I have a modified gtr sump for $350.00 if you want it in perfect condition clean as. in brisbane...

[R31Nismoid]

everyone is on a budget smartass. i never said i wanted to use the high energy sump. i was asking if anyone has heard anything about em, this is a forum isn't it? a place were you ask shit. everyone on here is trying to do shit to a budget, the cheaper the better. sorry i asked.

Now now.

IMO you do not undertake a RB26 conversion with a tight budget. Its simply not possible to do well.

Especially if your going to chase 300-350rwkw out of the thing on a stock bottom end.

Small things like replacing hoses, clamps etc etc. These things alone cost enough let alone the bolt ons

And look, $350 for a sump, cheap as chips.

[DCIEVE]

hey mate

Ive got a modified rb20 sump on my 26 (well one of the rwd sumps). It has been bashed out to clear the rb26 oil pickup but is otherwise standard. It surges HARD on acceleration (300rwkw) and not so badly under brakes, even with 0.5L overfill. Having looked at hi-energy I decided against going down that road. Only other solution I could find was to modify a GTR sump to fit... it was a pain getting a complete sump (couldnt find a stock baffle so stuck with a tomei baffle) and currently a mate is doing the required mods plus winging it to increase capacity and hopefully help combat surge

Basically your best and prob simplest option is to use a modded GTR sump. Attached is the last one the guys did.

Edited August 22, 2007 by DCIEVE

[zertek]

hey man,

i understand what u mean by budget. I think they are just misunderstanding what you are saying and assuming you're on a 'tight' budget. Which is totally different to shopping around for the best price (I see alot of people on SAU, getting pinged for being cheap, when simply doing thier h/w on prices.)

Also i couldnt see anywhere in your post about you mentioning you were chasing 300-350rwkw? unless you mentioned that in another topic, i must just be blind.

Anyway,

I don't know where your located but if your in Adelaide i have a rb25det AWD sump from a stagea you can have for $150, Then you can do as NIZMOID said an get it custom fab'd. Throw me a PM if your keen.

If not, then all the best with finding a suitable product.

Cheers

[r33_racer]

absolutely nothing wrong with a HE sump, been used and proven in circuit racing with no problems whatsoever. No surging, they increase oil capacity by atleast 3 litres over standard. Only problem is they do foul on the standard sway bar and they cost abit too for a modified second hand sump.

If the swaybar is a problem, its just a matter of contacting Sydneykid about one, as i know for a fact there are modified swaybars available for r32 and r33's to accomodate the High energy sump. May not be relevant to this thread, but may help others who are in need.

But a modified rb26 sump for 350 is pretty good. Worth looking at definietely.

[Guilt-Toy]

i got a standard rb25det 4wd sump from a stagea as well. but i only want $80 for it... its got the diff on it as well.

[STATUS]

Best bet is to use the Rb26 sump, they can be sourced nearly anywhere and i think i paid 100 for mine with a noisy diff. simple enough to remove the diff yourself and the thing is bullet proof... im not a fan of the steel sumps ive seen around the traps and the adapter plates ive seen are a waste of cash. Our car sits on 7k for ages and with simple bolt in baffles has proved very reliable and the whole lot owes me bugger all... far less than a high energy one thats for sure.

[T04GTR]

sounds good!! yes the alloy sump is the only way. not only for reliability but thats all that bolts up im pretty sure. and being the smartass that i am. its better to do it PROPERLY THE FIRST TIME than pay for 2 rb26's

[sic200]

yay! there are normal people on here... looks like i'll try and use a gtr sump then. i was basically asking what the best cheapest setup is to use... why spend money when you don't have to? right? i don't expect to make upto 350rwkw on a standard bottom end. i expect to make more with an aftermarket bottom end and 20/25 sumps do bolt on to4gtr but like someone else said you need to slightly massage the sump in some areas.

Edited August 23, 2007 by sic200