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Originally posted by riggaP

Look at the pic I've attached. Its nothing new. Just a pic I found on some nissan site, prolly put together originally by nissan.

Max power 180kw@6400rpm

Weight 1380kg

Power to Weight ratio = 130.435kw per tonne

The law clearly states that a P plate driver shall not drive a vehicle that has a power to weight ratio greater the 125kw per tonne. Power is measured at the engine. Weight is calculated in the vehicles unladen stock standard form (that means COMPLETELY unmodified, no driver, no fluids, no cement or mates in the back).  

The power and weight figures would have to come from Nissan if you wanted to contest it. You can weigh your car and put it on a dyno, but it aint gonna help.

You are breaking the law. End of story. You could waste a day in court trying to get out of it, or you can pay the fine. Stop whinging! This shit happens to everyone everyday!!!!

sorry but the car has been around for a while and they "gain" weight so "estimated" figjures have no baring whatsoever...

CHOP - go get the car weighed wih U in it and half a tank and take it from there.

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Originally posted by Horus

thats ****ing bullshit....and further strengthens my belief that cops target ethnics

What a load of crap that is. A kid in a performance car is a kid in a performance car - they all get labelled together. No one cares weather someone is ethnic. I’m sure there are ethnic cops! OMG

WTF does ethnic mean anyway.

P platers in R33 and later turbo skylines alway have been blatant breakers of the law. If you think about it logically it is smart to not have inexperienced drivers (Which P platers unarguably are) in high performance cars. Can anyone tell me they were a better driver when they were on their P's compared to now? No.

You knew the rule/it was your prerogative to know before you bought you car. You choose to take the risk of getting a fine. Stop complaining.

FFS you can't measue the weight of the car with you in it. may as well put 500kgs of lead in the boot.

I agree stop abusin the police as they r there for a reason and would back off if we all did the right thing, its coz of us brakin common laws that the TMU exist and are even greater in presence now instead of more detectives dealing wit drug dealers, wife bashers and murderers !!!!!

and i agree with yoshi etc... the police can be bad.. but just coz a few of em can be barstards why just expect them all to be.. in my experience the two times ive been pulled over (both times clearly doing something wrong :O) both cops were nice to me coz i was nice to them... and they gave me less punishment than i should of got because (i believ) i was nice to them

just my thoughts...

yeah i agree there are some wankers but there are some decent cops... luckily most of the ones ive had to encounter have been ok.... and chop looking at that scan u will notice one VITAL thing...

POINTS = -

he could have probably dicked u a couple of points for not obeying the guidelines of your license... so its not all doom and gloom

The thing is - how do they let p-platers buy these cars in the first place? They obviously go through the Vicroads system as "Nissan Skyline GTS-T" so they should just be stopping it there if they really wanted to prevent P platers driving skylines?

***en victoria is the only state in aus to hav this 'power to weight ' ratio bs, makes me wanna move to sydney, also makes me wanna rethink wat car i wil buy......

To be honest I think its a good thing if it was policed properly. The amount of P-platers that lose it and write off their car (hence why you guys get quoted $4k insurance premiums), or kill themselves or others because they can't handle the power is probably larger than you think.

nah its cool im gonna pay it

i knew this risk when i bought the car

im jus frustrated cos it is gonna be a hassle to pay it

looks like im gonna have to buy a cheque dammit and a 50c(not 45c) stamp

can't even pay this at post office

but the copper was cool about it, breath tested me, then asked me to pop the hood, went back to the car, pulled out a folder with all the engine numbers and power and weight specs and showed me and calculated the weight ratio in front of me.

but its bs cos i doubt my car can do 187kw at the fly. not on feckin shitty 98 RON australian fuel. On 104ron japanese fuel, hell yeah. and i doubt every single car that comes out of the factory would reach factory specs i probably got 170kw at the fly which would be totally legal

and the crap thing was i wasn't even hooning or anything. all the other cars were hooning it around knox but i got pulled over in a parking lot doing 5km/h looking for parking space.

he even said he owns a turbo car himself running 15psi

oh wellz

if they love issuing fines, why can't they make payment options better.

the only way i can pay in cash is to go to their crappy office in spencer st. haha f**k dat

btw he was driving a marked xr6t i think

it was idling louder than my car haha

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