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i dont fkn know.

if it is as iain says they are stiff as all f**k and he would have to go to hospital if the damper was below 15, it kind of seems like they went backwards.

im pretty sure your the only one in aus who has taken the car on a track, and honestly when is a 2 tonne family wagon going to be considered as a full time track car for the suspension to be that stiff.

dont get me wrong, BR's may be awesome compared to v1's, my point is - I CANT JUSTIFY IT. i hope thats alright with you Craig :turned:

yeh well done editing your post

i dont fkn know.

if it is as iain says they are stiff as all f**k and he would have to go to hospital if the damper was below 15, it kind of seems like they went backwards.

im pretty sure your the only one in aus who has taken the car on a track, and honestly when is a 2 tonne family wagon going to be considered as a full time track car for the suspension to be that stiff.

dont get me wrong, BR's may be awesome compared to v1's, my point is - I CANT JUSTIFY IT. i hope thats alright with you Craig :turned:

yeh well done editing your post

I did the edit because I didn't want to in force a logical comment on you!

dude its the same man, im telling you.

check your spring loading. mines only just tightened up. and 15 all round pretty much its still firm but comfortable because of the springs.

everythings the same man

V1; 44mm piston in a 50mm damper

BR; 46mm piston in a 53mm damper.

bigger piston and damper diameter, and more oil. thats straight from the BC website.

youll say its only a few mm difference, but when youre talking 50mm to 53mm thats a 7-8% increase in diameter, and over the entire length of the damper, thats a significant volume difference.

V1; 44mm piston in a 50mm damper

BR; 46mm piston in a 53mm damper.

bigger piston and damper diameter, and more oil. thats straight from the BC website.

youll say its only a few mm difference, but when youre talking 50mm to 53mm thats a 7-8% increase in diameter, and over the entire length of the damper, thats a significant volume difference.

perhaps.

but i was told that extra volume is only noticable if your on a track, beating the shit out of the suspension. but lets leave the argument here, because i could also just be biased because im starting to get sick of the stagea.

there is no perhaps about it lol

there is a difference, the setups are similar but not the same, hence the price difference in the 2 sets.

its not an argument, i was stating facts.

i guess the larger volume will give you the thermal capacity on the track, it would probably help on the street too, but bugger all i rekon.

there is no perhaps about it lol

there is a difference, the setups are similar but not the same, hence the price difference in the 2 sets.

its not an argument, i was stating facts.

i guess the larger volume will give you the thermal capacity on the track, it would probably help on the street too, but bugger all i rekon.

thats what i said?

back to my original thought

I(me) could not justify the extra price in getting th BR's. comprende` mi amigo?

i agree you said that, but you said you couldnt justify the price difference when there was no difference in the product.

anyway, i understand :P

no difference to me.

i dont think i said that enough lol

You know what I realised?

1. You guys don't have a day job, because if I was your boss and caught you guys jibbering this stuff during work I would fire you! Forget facebook :D

2. Aaron is a tight arse :P

3. Aaron isn't really concerned with the life of his shocks on the track (the larger dia reduces the shear on the oil, as the shock damping holes can be larger as the piston area is greater) Fine by me.

4. This isn't really M35 Info. It's more like "M35 Lets have a conversation so when people are looking for information they have to trawl through 65 pages of goodness to get it INFO" Why doesn't someone create a new thread/topic to discuss this or is that too logical?

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