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I put some 'no name' brand ones in my car about a year ago now and they have been fine. Every now and then I grease them as they get a bit squeaky. I think I got them from Unique Auto sports for about $200... I think the more expensive ones would be a bit lighter thats all...

I actually ground an extra 4-5mm off the centre adjustment nut and ended up getting around 9-10deg caster...Makes heaps of difference for turn in etc. One of the best handling mods for GTSt. Tyre wear has stayed the same too!!!

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Yeah you have a point. I wouldn't use any Chinese stuff that has been welded...caster rods are solid though. Replace the high tensile bolts with new ones and i would say you would be sweet for street use.

Also the caster rods are loaded mainly loaded under braking...stopping the wheel from moving forward / back ward under braking. If you are on the track and running slicks , ie very high braking forces I would run decent castor rods...

Roy,

I also recently fitted JJR (Chinese origin but they atleast are branded with warranty) upper rear control arms from Just Jap. The guy who set up the rear end looked at them and thought they were top shelf. Welding and finish appeared to be top notch... China now turns out two different qualities. 1. Really cheap shit that you dont touch, and 2. Reasonable quality at reasonable pricing.

I'd say go the JJR.

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ESP sport. Got them off japanese yahoo. They are chunky, sealed, and feature a spaced down ball joint to reduce bump steer.

They are a copy of the moon face racing tie rod end.

I would never even consider running one of those rose jointed ones as i hit too many ripple strips.

Had 2 runs with JJR front castor rods ( touch wood ) with full slicks and one with re55s ( and not hadling to well ) but seem to be ok.

The welds looked ok on the units i got but lets see.

Guess that i used cheap chinese crappy brakes :D so castor rods are the least of my problems LOL

People seem to be talking about two different things. You say rod ends which makes me think of tie rod ends but you pictured caster rods Troy. Which is it?

Yeah you have a point. I wouldn't use any Chinese stuff that has been welded...caster rods are solid though. Replace the high tensile bolts with new ones and i would say you would be sweet for street use.

Also the caster rods are loaded mainly loaded under braking...stopping the wheel from moving forward / back ward under braking. If you are on the track and running slicks , ie very high braking forces I would run decent castor rods...

Duncan just snapped his second stock caster rod under brakes. Maybe the cheap chinese would be better. :P

I've got the JJ ones. When I asked they said they have cheaper ones but the main difference was that the ones I got have dust covers. I've only done a couple of thousand kays on them though and one track day. Hit plenty of ripple strips though. :P

People seem to be talking about two different things. You say rod ends which makes me think of tie rod ends but you pictured caster rods Troy. Which is it?

The picture that he posted is a set of after market rose jointed tie rod ends, not castor rods as a lot of people seem to think

id trust dave's version over pillowball end's for steering, especialy with the amount of track time ur car see's roy. the pillow ball joints will eventualy knock and seize up a lil. just not my cup of tea for steering components.

Only front tie rod ends. they work really well with the roll center adjusters too as the line of the lower control arm and the tie rod remain close to parallel. I haven't looked at rear stuff yet but i suspect i'd need a modded hicas lock bar to move the inner ball joint upwards rather than the outer down as it's fixed in the hub.

http://page14.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s15581679 here's a yahoo link if you have a japan contact. pm me if you don't and i can give you details of the guy i use.

http://www.moonface-int.com/mfr/tie/tierod/adjusttierod.htm and the original. check the japanese version of the site for prices

hope that helps

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