Endless Brake Callipers - Info Wanted

[djr81]

Some questions about the Endless brake callipers:

1. Is any one out there running them - if so do you have any comments?

2. Are any of the Endless range of brake pads any good?

More particularly I would like to ask for their "inch up" 343x32 rotor + 6 pot calliper does anyone know:

1. What pad size is it?

2. Can you get other than Endless pads - particularly the Ferodo DS2500 or equivalent?

3. How much piston area do the callipers have?

It is too bloody hard finding information on callipers most days.

[Kaido_RR]

im currently running endless disc and pads in my ap's. not sure what type they are but they are awsome and pull the car up really well but i have not used any other pad in my ap's so i have nothing to compare it too.

i saw an add. in my option 2 mag about the endless, i go dig it up and see if its got any information for you

[Roy]

DJ...judt buy them. The prioce that kit is going for you cant lose. BD4s in Sydney use to run them on their GTRs, and whislt the cars never say that much track work in anger...they cannot be a bad thing based on the fact that most HKS demo cars run them

[Ronin 09]

i want to try some endless or project mu pads in my CP5555s.

they're some of the best stuff to come out of japan in terms of brakes - give it a go!!

[djr81]

DJ...judt buy them. The prioce that kit is going for you cant lose. BD4s in Sydney use to run them on their GTRs, and whislt the cars never say that much track work in anger...they cannot be a bad thing based on the fact that most HKS demo cars run them

Yes they are good value for money. But my principal concern is getting some good pads to go with them. I finally found some Brembo rears & there was a set of Endless pads in them. They look for all the world to be nasty old school metallic type pads.

the 6 pot calliper looks to have a 152mm long pad. But that is just scaling the photo, so I don't know.

[baboo]

Just give Centrax Auto a call on 07 3349 7888, they are Endless brake distributor in Australia.

I run 6 pot 355 front 4 pot 330 rear. they are fantastic

Endless brake pads on one of the top pads, especially the race compound, the pads are superb.

[djr81]

Well I have heard good things, but.....I have two issues (OK, I have more issues htan the Readers Digest, but I digress).

1. The quoted friction coefficients are low - in the 0.35 - 0.4 range. Compared with the 0.5 I have on the DS2500's it looks horrible & low.

2. I need the pads to be useable on the road (ie work from cold & not squeel much) but also not run out of friction coefficient on the track when they get hot.

I sent an enquiry to Centrax, but they ignored it. Guess I will have to ring them aswell.

[baboo]

Have a look at their website,

www.endless-sport.com.au

it should tell you the range of pads they have.

higher friction coefficient doesn't mean better braking performance, consistence is the key. If a pad with high coefficient of 0.5 and performance drops off to 0.2/0.1 when it gets too hot, then what's the use of that pad.

Key point is to select the right compound for your application.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Richard, If they fit under 17's and you don't buy them, then let me know

[djr81]

Richard, If they fit under 17's and you don't buy them, then let me know

The ones in the photo are just some random stuff from Yahoo auctions - they appear to be a 6 pot calliper on a 324 rotor. Not what I was after, but they would be a good thing none the less....so don't let me stop you.

[djr81]

Have a look at their website,

www.endless-sport.com.au

it should tell you the range of pads they have.

higher friction coefficient doesn't mean better braking performance, consistence is the key. If a pad with high coefficient of 0.5 and performance drops off to 0.2/0.1 when it gets too hot, then what's the use of that pad.

Key point is to select the right compound for your application.

Yes but according to the nice people from Ferodo the friction coefficient is stable across a large temperature range. That is one of the reasons why I like them.

[baboo]

I'm not saying Ferodos are not good they are probably as good as Pagid?

but I can tell you EBCs are shit.

I'm pretty sure you have to run Endless pads if you use Endless caliper system.

If you run AP racing, Alcon, Brembos, maybe Ferodo do the pads for them?

Edited December 10, 2007 by baboo

[djr81]

I'm not saying Ferodos are not good they are probably as good as Pagid?

but I can tell you EBCs are shit.

I'm pretty sure you have to run Endless pads if you use Endless caliper system.

If you run AP racing, Alcon, Brembos, maybe Ferodo do the pads for them?

Yes they do. For all of them. Which is why I asked the question. I don't want to have to be locked into the Endless pad range because of the calliper.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

djr81,

Did you find out whether you can run other pads in Endless brakes ?

[djr81]

Couldn't find out. The people who supply Endless pads pretty much only supply Endless pads. Whereas those that supply Ferodo stuff can't help much without a pad shape - which I can't find. There are a few sites with pad shape info on them, but matching to the calliper is too hard. I haven't yet run anyone down who admits to owning an Endless calliper.

There is info here, but I am stymied because my puta neither has a Japanese language install nor could I read it even if I had.

http://www.endless-sport.co.nz/Downloads/t...26/Default.aspx

Maybe try Tony Flood in Perth if you are keen. He is usually very knowledgeble/helpful.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I should be able to get a pad for a 6-pot endless, and take some measurements if that will help ? I'm hoping to trial fit some endless brakes this weekend to see if I can get 355mm to fit under my rims.

[djr81]

Absolutely. Anything you can manage is all good. Have a look at the link from above because a couple of them have drawn the pad outlines of data sheets. May make it easier.

Also be curious to find out what the piston sizes on these things are....

Edited December 14, 2007 by djr81

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Ok, I'll try and take some measurements of the pistons too. Will copy the outline of the pad if I get my hands on them.

[Sick_R31]

I got the inch up -3 kit with 355 x 32 rotors with 6 piston calipers, they're waiting to go on my project car so i can comment on how well they perform.

Pad size 138 x 61 x 18, here's a pic of the pad

Piston sizes 38mm, 32mm, 27mm

[ferni]

What's your project car?

What power? What weight?