Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Mitcho_7]

? he said calories, that is a kilocalorie or kcal.

Calories are confusing but there is a difference between calories and kilocalories

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie

You're right though, most things that refer to calories in the dietary sense are kcal.

Either way kasko, 1758kcal would be your BMR. Which is the amount of energy your body requires to carry out all the necessary basic functions to ensure survival without getting out of bed.

So you will definently need more energy each day than that or you will be a skinny man in no time.

Edited August 7, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[Manuel Kasko]

Hahaha so your saying I match that and sleep all day? WIN!

[TM7GTR]

Calories are confusing but there is a difference between calories and kilocalories

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie

You're right though, most things that refer to calories in the dietary sense are kcal.

Either way kasko, 1758kcal would be your BMR. Which is the amount of energy your body requires to carry out all the necessary basic functions to ensure survival without getting out of bed.

So you will definently need more energy each day than that or you will be a skinny man in no time.

I hope you realise that 1000 calories (food related) = 1 kilocalorie....

Basically you've just said his caloric maintenance level is that of a small african nation's monthly food intake lol

[TM7GTR]

Dani Boi - Not quite sure what point you were trying to make with that quote you posted?

Kasko - For every 30-45 min of weights, you should be doing another 20-30 mins of cardio to cut body fat, and cut down your intake of carbs per day. Fat burning supps won't do shit for you to an extent, and what they do achieve doesn't come without side effects. Energy in < Energy out = fat loss... simple as that. If you want to add muscle, there is no quick way.

Some people complicate the hell out of easy concepts.

Birds - Strong lime green underwear... would buy some

[Mitcho_7]

1785 calories per day doesnt seem unreasonable to me for a BMR...

But i dont study nutrition or know much about it

Edited August 7, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[-FIGJAM-]

1785 is pretty small. Across 3 meals a day its only 595 calories. Fairly easy if you ask me.

[Dani Boi]

Dani Boi - Not quite sure what point you were trying to make with that quote you posted?

Kasko - For every 30-45 min of weights, you should be doing another 20-30 mins of cardio to cut body fat, and cut down your intake of carbs per day. Fat burning supps won't do shit for you to an extent, and what they do achieve doesn't come without side effects. Energy in < Energy out = fat loss... simple as that. If you want to add muscle, there is no quick way.

Some people complicate the hell out of easy concepts.

Birds - Strong lime green underwear... would buy some

He asked how to increase metabolic rate, eat food. I have those same underwear except mine have the blue elastic instead of green lmao.

[TM7GTR]

1785 calories per day doesnt seem unreasonable to me for a BMR...

But i dont study nutrition or know much about it

1785 is pretty small. Across 3 meals a day its only 595 calories. Fairly easy if you ask me.

Clearly you guys didn't read what I wrote properly 1785 calories is very minimal yes, but I was referring to how you wrote 1785 kcal. 1785 kcal would be the equivalent of 1,785,000 calories seeing as 1kcal = 1000 calories

He asked how to increase metabolic rate, eat food. I have those same underwear except mine have the blue elastic instead of green lmao.

Ahh fair enough. Hahaha if we're talking about Bonds here I have fluro blue and pink... real men can pull off fluro pink...

[Birds]

Why do you take a pic of yourself in the car window, it makes you look 2x bigger than you actually are.

Pic isn't to show how big I am, I mentioned in my post how it distorts angles. Pic was to show muscle tone and lack of fat from supplementing using BN. There's no hiding how big I am with photos...most people here know I'm 80kg @ 6'3. Not huge, but not tiny either considering the BF. If it satisfies the people my next pic will be in front of a mirror

[10 4]

Bunch of fags lol

[Birds]

So if I work out a meal plan of 1700 calories and adjust as I shed fat and gain muscle

You will shed fat, but you won't gain much muscle or as quickly/effectively because you aren't fueling yourself properly with such a low intake. Your goals are countering each other. Pick one or sit at a happy medium...

...or you could eat whatever you want and run some HIIT.

[TM7GTR]

Some people just wanna see a mirror shot of Birds' wang.... wait wut

[Manuel Kasko]

You will shed fat, but you won't gain much muscle or as quickly/effectively because you aren't fueling yourself properly with such a low intake. Your goals are countering each other. Pick one or sit at a happy medium...

...or you could eat whatever you want and run some HIIT.

Getting big is the not a priority

Losing loose flab is the goal

Once this is achieved then I can work on gain of muscle. What would you recommend with intake to shed the weight. We can talk about gain once I finish with the shed

[10 4]

Getting big is the not a priority

Losing loose flab is the goal

Once this is achieved then I can work on gain of muscle. What would you recommend with intake to shed the weight. We can talk about gain once I finish with the shed

Why don't you do it the other way round?

Just cut for summer...

[Birds]

I have those same underwear except mine have the blue elastic instead of green lmao.

They are awesome underwear, very comfy. I have them in blue, red, pink, green, white. Shame they dont make completely white ones though!

[Manuel Kasko]

Why don't you do it the other way round?

Just cut for summer...

Because I need to know what my limits are etc.

Don't want to fark it up and find im some medium buff tubby dude.

As I mentioned my main goal is to see what I can shed and then work up from a base that I am happy with

Is this stupid?

[Birds]

Getting big is the not a priority

Losing loose flab is the goal

Once this is achieved then I can work on gain of muscle. What would you recommend with intake to shed the weight. We can talk about gain once I finish with the shed

Then live off only water, high protein / low fat foods like chicken/ham, steamed vegetables, next to nothing in the way of sugar / junk food...and start running. Don't bother with calorie counting and calculators, it's overcomplicating things. Eat only when you're hungry and keep it healthy. Drink water until your piss looks like you could drink it. Run (fast) 3-5km three times a week. If you stick to that I promise you will lose all the weight you want to. Once you've cut down to what you want, you can stabilize i.e. eat basically whatever you want and just counter it with exercise, like I do. Get to know your stomach flab; learn how to pinch it with your fingers in the same spot...easy test for gaining/losing fat.

Be aware though, that you might be happy with your muscle gains now or how you look with T shirts on...but your muscle size will appear to diminish as you cut, because you don't get to choose where that fat comes off and there's a whole heap of it making your muscles look bigger than they actually are. At 80kg I look great with no top on, but put me in a T shirt and most of it is gone. At 89kg I lost visibility of my abs (untensed), but I was bigger under clothes and people told me so. Still, I much prefer "cut" me...

[Manuel Kasko]

Thanks birds

So I'll just keep doing what I been doing the past couple of weeks. Chicken breast and broccoli for lunch, Fruits as snacks and oats etc for breakfast.

Dinner what ever I feel like but make sure it's healthy with brown rice, brown pasta or mashed sweet potato.

And instead of running can I just keep pumping phat weight sessions because my ankle is farked from jumping off a cliff so can't run far

[10 4]

^Ride a bike? (Quickly)

Edited August 7, 2012 by 10 4

[markos]

Just read through this, some really strong boys on here, keep it up fellas