Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Husky33]

walking out is half the battle ha ha

[markos]

Times change Simon, when you competed at my comps I didnt allow belts, knee wraps or wrist wraps, all squats walked out

Now at PTC we have a monolift, specialist DL bars, specialist squat bars, lots of my competing lifters wear belts, they all wear knee wraps and most wear wrist wraps when benching

Still proud to say my strongest, Jack, who squats 300kg, benches 185kg and deadlifts 300kg, has never worn a belt, but he is only 21

Drop in when youre in Vic next

[markos]

I should also point out that back then, no one squatted 200kg, benched 150kg or deadlifted 250kg

We now have 13 that squat 200kg, 12 that bench 150kg and 13 that deadlift 250kg, including 6 lifters who can do all 3, with 3 of them aged 21, 20 and 19

Future looks bright

[TTT]

your slogan also used to be "home of the 200kg deadlift" lol

[markos]

We stopped counting once we got to 200 lifters pulling 200kg at PTC, and thats only clients, I have no idea what the number is now

[Dani Boi]

Nice video, like the speech at the start, song lyrics suit it well.

[jangles]

I should also point out that back then, no one squatted 200kg, benched 150kg or deadlifted 250kg

We now have 13 that squat 200kg, 12 that bench 150kg and 13 that deadlift 250kg, including 6 lifters who can do all 3, with 3 of them aged 21, 20 and 19

Future looks bright

What sort of weights are these lifters at? Or doesn't that matter?

[some_cs_student]

Weight matters, formulas are usually based on age, weight, and amount lifted. And of course sex

[Birds]

Does height ever come into it? Always seems to be excluded from factoring...I'm curious as to why, as I would have thought tall guys had a bit of a disadvantage...given how much extra weight height can give you.

[TTT]

sound like an excuse.

[Husky33]

Does height ever come into it? Always seems to be excluded from factoring...I'm curious as to why, as I would have thought tall guys had a bit of a disadvantage...given how much extra weight height can give you.

The bigger the frame the more muscle can be put on it.

Look at the world's strongest man competition for example, only a couple of the guys are just under 6 foot. Most are well over 6 foot.

And i'm not sure now, but a couple years ago the world pl records were held by guys over 6 foot.

I think limb length is what can be a factor, not whether you are tall or short. A tall guy with short arms may bench better than a short guy with long arms.

[Birds]

sound like an excuse.

Of course it's an excuse, but it's nice to know who has natural advantages and disadvantages in this sort of thing; what creates them.

When it comes to competition where weight classes exist...the olympics, for example...I didn't see many 6'3 guys doing clean and jerks in London. In anything but the open / max weight classes, it seems height is a disadvantage.

[Birds]

The bigger the frame the more muscle can be put on it.

Look at the world's strongest man competition for example, only a couple of the guys are just under 6 foot. Most are well over 6 foot.

And i'm not sure now, but a couple years ago the world pl records were held by guys over 6 foot.

I think limb length is what can be a factor, not whether you are tall or short. A tall guy with short arms may bench better than a short guy with long arms.

Thanks for that info. When you say frame size, does this only refer to height or can body width (e.g. shoulder span, waist, bone structure etc.) be a factor in it?

[Husky33]

well bone structure is definatley a factor and natural body shape swell, but i think non-optimal body shapes/structures occur in both short and tall people.

[Dani Boi]

More height = more muscle can be put on (overall bodyweight) and IMO bodyweight is proportional to the amount you lift. i.e. 100kg person lifts 160kg dl thats only 1.6xbw, 75kg person lifts 150kg dl thats 2xbw. So the 75kg person maybe lifting less but overall he is proportionally stronger than the heavier person, but of course the heavier person will have an ego and be like "bro I can lift more than you"

Edited October 3, 2012 by Dani Boi

[NickR33]

height is obviously a factor in olympic weightlifting, the taller you are the higher you have to get the bar to get underneath it... shorter arms also help but there are exceptions to the rule

powerlifting I don't think height is as much of a factor... long arms help with deadlifting, short arms better for bench... squatting no idea? might be hard with a long torso to stop the weight folding you in half?

weight is a much bigger factor and the proportion of limb lengths in relation to optimal leverages... but at the end of the day strong is strong (that's my new favourite saying... along with 'strong people are harder to kill'... thanks markos)

hot down here today... summer is almost here... can't wait to be sweating my arse off in a gym with no air con... at least you need half the time to warm up lol

love working out in the sunshine... might have to get a shitty old rack for outside... wife should love that idea

[Birds]

Damn public gyms.

Lastnight there was a tiny brunette hussy wearing the shortest and tightest little shorts...perfect body shape and without a doubt the hottest thing I've seen at a gym...parading herself from room to room, "testing out" machines and giggling out loud to her grenade friend. I swear she signed up just for attention...and she was getting it; everyone looking.

And then she did stretches and splits on the exercise mats hnnnnnnnnnnnnng probably a gymnast. I can't work out with this shit.

[markos]

Well there are weight classes

60kg, 67.5kg, 75kg, 82.5kg, 90kg, 100kg, 110kg, 125kg, 140kg, 140kg+. You must way UNDER the weight

Our best lifters

75kg class - Emad Nayef 220kg squat, 125 bench(injured, has done 150kg) and 260kg deadlift, in competition, best total 602.5kg (35yo)

82.5kg class - Martin Nguyen 227.5kg squat, 132.5kg bench press , deadlift 272.5kg, best total 632.5kg (teen, 19)

90kg class - Max Markopoulos 250kg squat, 155kg bench, 245kg deadlift, best total 650kg (20yo)

140kg+ - Jack Pollard 280kg squat, 185kg bench, 280kg deadlift, best total 745kg 21yo)

All 4 lifters have lifted more in the gym, but these are comp results only

[markos]

For those that dont know, on bench press the bar must pause on the chest till the judge gives a press command

[TM7GTR]

Damn public gyms.

Lastnight there was a tiny brunette hussy wearing the shortest and tightest little shorts...perfect body shape and without a doubt the hottest thing I've seen at a gym...parading herself from room to room, "testing out" machines and giggling out loud to her grenade friend. I swear she signed up just for attention...and she was getting it; everyone looking.

And then she did stretches and splits on the exercise mats hnnnnnnnnnnnnng probably a gymnast. I can't work out with this shit.

And you didn't approach her to ask for "stretching advice"?