Gym And Supplement Discussion

[markos]

Flexibility and squat depth is irrelevant.

Max cant touch his toes, squats deeper than anyone here

Its mobility you should be looking at

No one here stretches, but most do mobility exercises, although Max and Martin don't.

What they do do is perform every rep of every set to its correct range of motion, even warm ups with empty bars

Just food for thought

[No Crust Racing]

Thanks Markos.

Do they do any particular mobility exercise apart from the actual squat to help with mobility in the required joints?

[markos]

Dan does, he is very tight in the hips, yet can kick over anyones head (2 x World Kickboxing Champ). Very flexible, yet lacks mobility in the hips.

Mobility World seems to be the best site for that stuff, has some very good information on there

[-FIGJAM-]

had to squat on the smith machine last night, found i could go much much lower then when I do with the bar by itself. Probably another 2 inches. Not sure why, I wasn't leaning back into the squat and using the machine to balance myself (if that makes sense). Weight was 10kg lighter but even when I warm up with the bar only, I don't get that low.

[Trozzle]

Fark squatting in the smith machine even when the Olympic bars are being used. I just do goblet squats instead (yeah, can't use the same weight but it still pummels my legs well with a 50gk dumbbell lol)

[jangles]

had to squat on the smith machine last night, found i could go much much lower then when I do with the bar by itself. Probably another 2 inches. Not sure why, I wasn't leaning back into the squat and using the machine to balance myself (if that makes sense). Weight was 10kg lighter but even when I warm up with the bar only, I don't get that low.

because of the pulley system and the controlled nature of the bar (no,you werent needing to control it as much) that 10kg lighter was probably 40kg lighter. generally any excerise on a machine is easier than free weights.

[-FIGJAM-]

i guess that is possible and makes sense

[L33SH]

[No Crust Racing]

How's the whole no cheese thing going Leesh?

I enjoyed a little Camembert last night, just saying...

[bozodos]

fark smith machine squats - tried them once, felt totally unnatural and could not get as low as I do with a barbell! Seems to be popular in my gym though, that and smith machine bench press.

[No Crust Racing]

Is it because the assisted lift means more numbers which means more bragging rights to your gymbros or is it about safety?

I've often thought a spotter would be nice at home, especially when I'm going up in weight on something.

[L33SH]

[L33SH]

How's the whole no cheese thing going Leesh?

I enjoyed a little Camembert last night, just saying...

I'm eating cheese once or twice a week now, however I've stopped consuming cheese and crackers and eating cheese on its own as a snack. Still the same weight so I don't think it's going to make much of a difference now.

[No Crust Racing]

Cheese fiend!

Yeah cool, everything in moderation etc.

[Trozzle]

f**k moderation - all out or bust! hahaha and herein lies my problem

[No Crust Racing]

IMO it's easier gaining weight than it is loosing it, but that's just my personal view others may disagree,

[Birds]

The Smith machines at my gym don't have pulleys (no assistance), the bar just slides up and down two poles and looks like it would be heavier than or the same weight as a normal bar bell. Friction of the poles probably adds resistance too.

It's a shit motion though. To me, it's only good as an adjustable pull up machine and I'd rather wait half an hour for squat racks to free up. My mother nailed freeweights bench and squats the first time she tried them, no excuse not to learn how to balance a bar.

Just work on that mobility if you want to squat lower. Everyone can do it, everyone can sit in a seat and pull their knees up to their chest, their body just doesn't trust itself during squat motion.

[Birds]

Why do people curl in squat racks? Is it to use the safety bars to hold the bar up so it's easier to pick up?

[Trozzle]

IMO it's easier gaining weight than it is loosing it, but that's just my personal view others may disagree,

Agree and disagree. Losing weight is only difficult mentally, since ultimately all you need to do to lose WEIGHT is be in a deficit - don't actually need to do any exercise. Gaining weight is easy as hell, since all you gotta do is be in caloric surplus.

Losing FAT while retaining muscle = both physically and mentally difficult

Gaining MUSCLE = physically difficult

[Trozzle]

There is NO excuse for curling in the squat rack, short of wanting to curl excess of ~45kg (heaviest most fixed-weight dumbbells I've seen go to) specifically with a straight bar.

The smith machines Anytime Fitness have are ever so slightly assisted, but only enough to slightly offset the weight of the bar without any plates (makes bar weight 9kg, and also makes it move much slower without weight)