rev210 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) It'd quite a strict movement; one of the reasons it is done behind neck, because there is little variance in the range of motion. As long as you're taught and execute it correctly, this makes it one of the safer shoulder exercises. But no amount of safety in a range of motion will save you if not everything is sitting right when you do it. Sorry birds thats not right at all . The range of motion and the position is bad compared to standard. It's got far more stress on the rotator cuff due to the position of the shoulder. You can do them in relative safety, provided you are in correct shoulder position (and can get there with enough shoulder mobility).However, It will place much much more stress on the rotator, scapular and traps than front style. Maybe people don't like the regualr military press as much because sometimes the amount of weight they can do is less , relative to behind the neck (people like bragging rights). Add to this the 'standing' as opposed to sitting component and it's easier to get it wrong. To help illustrate as to why these are strong on the rotator cuff , look at the elbow position. In the same way as the other pressing movement bench press. elbows out for gym punter bench press (ouch my rotators) vs the elbows in version for powerlifting. Front press starts with the elbows in front and in. Moving the bar upwards vertically. Behind the neck is out to the sides and up out a little. Either press needs a good strong shoulder girdle and upperback. Both assist slightly in actually building stronger supporting muscles as a compound movement. But, that aint enough. My shoulders are pretty strong, I didn't need them. Edited August 31, 2013 by rev210 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6996897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Got my weightlifting chalk today, should help out a bit! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6998754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 The difference chalk makes will blow your mind lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6998756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM7GTR Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 liquid grip is great for gyms that don't allow chalk Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6998763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 liquid grip is great for gyms that don't allow chalk f**k those gyms lol. Just don't let them see you start using it, and don't make a bloody mess....then if/when they notice you've got chalk, they won't usually care since you didn't get it everywhere haha Either way, f**k those gyms Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6998769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 There is no such thing as a gym that doesn't allow chalk. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6998814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 There is no such thing as a gym that doesn't allow chalk. I'm sure Planet Fitness would be at the top of the list lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6998823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Also, fellow protein brahs...a testing company finally got back to me and are emailing me information on how to send them a sample. So the wheels are in motion Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6998828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 hi 5 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6998857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markos Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 There is no such thing as a gym that doesn't allow chalk. Quoted for truth Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Quoted for truth I think it's more that some gyms (all of which would be commercial gyms) would get up you for leaving a mess lol...I know the chick at my gym was like "don't make too much mess or the cleaners might whine haha"...she cool though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markos Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Totally missing the point Troy, but thats okay, me and Birds know whats up lol 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Suggesting that if the "gym" doesn't allow chalk, it's not a real gym? If so I agree Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotato Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Looking for a new pre workout. Any suggestions? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev210 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) Looking for a new pre workout. Any suggestions? Put a HKS sticker on your head. BOOM 50 rear wheel kw extra ! Edited September 2, 2013 by rev210 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Looking for a new pre workout. Any suggestions? Food Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotato Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) I just dont want to end up throwing up my food Edited September 2, 2013 by Brotato Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 EHP Buzz, do recommend. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33SH Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Looking for a new pre workout. Any suggestions? no Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-6999860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I just dont want to end up throwing up my food You won't if you eat at least 2 hours before you work out for a large meal, or an hour for a small meal. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/431/#findComment-7000009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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