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My problem with most regular PWO users is that in 99.9% of them, you can spot an obvious issue with either their diet, routine, or rest periods. The marketed nature of the product is geared towards people who throw money at problems to make them go away quickly. The mindset of the regular PWO user is therefore the same kind of person who:

- skips gym if their personal trainer or gym buddy can't make it

- recommends to much stronger/bigger people that they try the PWO too

- brags about the PWO giving them an extra rep on an isolation movement

- is "cutting" for a music festival and struggling to get through their regular workout

- skipped lunch that day

- got drunk the night before and had 4 hours sleep

- has about 3-5 supplements from GNC

so, so true. no more needs to be said!

Well another session on GAT's pre work out. Definitely increased focus. I was falling asleep at work before I had it, afterwards I felt more awake and focused and just ready for a hard work out.

Managed 100KG dead lift at the end of the work out for 3 reps hopefully next week ill make 5 reps.

And a little good news hit 73.5kg on the scales this week. Up from 72.2 previous weeks and after my normal long time spent on the shitter. Hopefully im breaking the 72kg barrier but wont really know for a couple of weeks

I have one of my lifters mum training at my gym now, its now been 8 weeks, never been in a gym before. On Monday she squatted 70kg x 5, benched 57.5kg x 5 and deadlifted 100kg x 5.

Only posting this as I'm very impressed at her progress and commitment , no one thought she would last. Been doing full body 3 x week beginners workout, with some twists

that is impressive - had she trained before? Was that just doing your regular beginners workout?

I started bench pressing again yesterday - I found that I had to drop a reasonable amount of weight to keep my arms tucked in and not all the way out, but did not get any unnatural feeling in the shoulders thankfully.

Pushes focus more onto triceps than shoulders, so it's normal to experience a shift in strength when changing technique like that. Isn't long before it catches up again though.

No shes brand new to lifting, she has a 23yo son Dan, he's 6'6" and 155kg lol, Jack

While I've got you Dan, I have 2 x 50lb plates, 4 x 25lb plates and 2 x 10lb plates, plus some small stuff, all 1" hole, if you want to pick up, for the never to be repeated price of free.99. These are very thin plates, easy to get heaps of weight on the bar, around 100kg (220lb)

I would love that, collecting it may be an issue given the distance though.

Freight would work out around the 140-160 mark which still isn't bad, but would require some assistance from you (to package/be available when pickup occurs).

I might have a mate down Frankston way who could collect them though.

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I would love that, collecting it may be an issue given the distance though.

Freight would work out around the 140-160 mark which still isn't bad, but would require some assistance from you (to package/be available when pickup occurs).

I might have a mate down Frankston way who could collect them though.

Tip a DECA regular $50 to collect them dude.

Markos quick question. I honestly think its the mental struggle in the gym and outside that decides if the person will succeed. Have you had anyone in your gym with such issues ( depression, anxiety etc ) and have actually succeeded or are we just a lost cause?

I have a girl who is schizophrenic and suffers paranoia, shes doing okay.

As far as depression goes, pretty hard to be depressed in here, lots of fun, mucking around, jokes, stealing guys cars and having them reported to the cops, freezing their belts etc, normal stuff.

So to answer your question, I tell my clients that if they walk through the door theyre right to train.

We do have some retarded lifters like Ross, but most like him lol

No ones a lost cause, no one

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Dudes I've refunded your donations for supplement research, as endless promises from testing companies saying they will get back to me with information about how to send them a sample, are getting tedious. Sorry lads, I tried :(

Nee-san do you wanna pm me your bank details and I'll send you some monies? Cheers

Lifting can be a good escape from everything I find. The only struggle is actually getting yourself there if you are feeling down. But once you get there and get some music going, for that 1.5 hours or so nothing else really matters.

I have a girl who is schizophrenic and suffers paranoia, shes doing okay.

As far as depression goes, pretty hard to be depressed in here, lots of fun, mucking around, jokes, stealing guys cars and having them reported to the cops, freezing their belts etc, normal stuff.

So to answer your question, I tell my clients that if they walk through the door theyre right to train.

We do have some retarded lifters like Ross, but most like him lol

No ones a lost cause, no one

Could you send it to my son, the Prince regent of Nigeria, he is currently fleeing prosection.

Can you send it by Western Union money transfer ?

Dudes I've refunded your donations for supplement research, as endless promises from testing companies saying they will get back to me with information about how to send them a sample, are getting tedious. Sorry lads, I tried :(

Nee-san do you wanna pm me your bank details and I'll send you some monies? Cheers

Thanks for trying though! Money received.

Lifting can be a good escape from everything I find. The only struggle is actually getting yourself there if you are feeling down. But once you get there and get some music going, for that 1.5 hours or so nothing else matters.

Never cared for what they do, never cared for what they know...

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