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Mate just add a few sets to your workout or do some HIIT cardio. People will tell you that you can't out train a bad diet, but it's not a bad diet if the calorie outtake is there too. I eat a loaf of bread a day and still have abs ;)

It's possible to burn more then what you eat. Lots of anaerobic exercise i.e. HIIT and weight training which burn a f**k load of calories and afterwards as well.

I'm a fan of devouring bread with pb, rice and enormous amounts of meat, chicken and pork.

hardly have any pics. But If you like I can post of one currently now and maybe once I finish my cycle or 12-16 weeks later?

Sounds good. You generally don't see many of these because so many people doing cycles aren't too open about it or are quite vague.

In fact I've only really seen before and afters of a mate at uni who did a cycle as soon as he joined a gym. Mind you he ended up the same size as me after 8 weeks and I had been going for a couple of years back then lol

Sounds good. You generally don't see many of these because so many people doing cycles aren't too open about it or are quite vague.

In fact I've only really seen before and afters of a mate at uni who did a cycle as soon as he joined a gym. Mind you he ended up the same size as me after 8 weeks and I had been going for a couple of years back then lol

I admit it because I've broken the natural pathway. No point trying to act like I've achieved my results on protein powder, chicken and broccoli lol. Someone can blow up quite rapidly whilst on something. Scary part is after you stop. Having all the pct possible is the best thing possible. Still can't avoid the inevitable though...Just gotta train even harder!

I think these days you get more respect from those who don't cycle if you're more open about it. Most people don't have a problem with it beyond someone trying to pass themselves off as natty or talking about their routine and forgetting to include their extracurricular activities in it, and will still admire the impressive feats that are a well crafted body or a strong lift. We all know that whether you use or not has nothing to do with your intensity/willpower/effort; only the extent of the results achievable.

probably mentioned earlier, but what do you guys use to monitor your intake?

keep a diary? phone app? if so which one?

I use these apps called common sense and a pinch test :P

Ignore the retard talking in this vid.... the details of Bostin Loyd and his 1 year steroid adventure is available on the web somewhere..

He publicly listed every single drug he took, the amounts and timing and blah blah blah..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpCFMzmPAc

Ignore the retard talking in this vid.... the details of Bostin Loyd and his 1 year steroid adventure is available on the web somewhere..

He publicly listed every single drug he took, the amounts and timing and blah blah blah..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpCFMzmPAc

The gains he got over a year are awesome but he definitely wasnt small to begin with, just carrying a some extra fat.

I havent seen the video where he talks about everything he took, but i daresay he was on cycle year round which is pretty intense and thats probably got a lot to do with why he has managed to keep the gains.

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