Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Mangune]

You take a PWO for batting?

Porn is usually enough for me...

Extra stims...

[vspecIInur]

I have an extremely high tolerance to pre-workouts or in general...stimulants etc.

I tried Craze for a while but needed 4-5 scoops to really feel it. This is coming from someone who was using 200mcg of clenbuterol each day and eventually became completely immune to it as well as DMAA. So instead I simply finish work, train than eat some good solid carbs and protein. For almost 2 months I haven't had any supplements whatsoever. Old school is the way to go

[jangles]

I have an extremely high tolerance to pre-workouts or in general...stimulants etc.

I tried Craze for a while but needed 4-5 scoops to really feel it. This is coming from someone who was using 200mcg of clenbuterol each day and eventually became completely immune to it as well as DMAA. So instead I simply finish work, train than eat some good solid carbs and protein. For almost 2 months I haven't had any supplements whatsoever. Old school is the way to go

you've definitely changed your opinion then...

[rev210]

Here is a thought to consider. I make some assumptions here so take from it what you will.

How much do you rely on the stimulant pre-workout to give your best effort in physical performance?

If you are saying you don't do as well without one, then you are likely not even close to your limit.

Not trying to sound too harsh here but, It's a mental crutch. You are waiting for some kind of buzz to tell you it's now ok to pick up a weight.

You are the one lifting the weights when you are taking it, not the suppliment. Once you realise that ,you can pocket the money and buy some beer on the weekend with it.

[Trozzle]

Here is a thought to consider. I make some assumptions here so take from it what you will.

How much do you rely on the stimulant pre-workout to give your best effort in physical performance?

If you are saying you don't do as well without one, then you are likely not even close to your limit.

Not trying to sound too harsh here but, It's a mental crutch. You are waiting for some kind of buzz to tell you it's now ok to pick up a weight.

You are the one lifting the weights when you are taking it, not the suppliment. Once you realise that ,you can pocket the money and buy some beer on the weekend with it.

Funnily, we're talking about PWO supps being a waste of money with regards to fitness....so instead you suggest the consumption of alcohol? hahaha

[Birds]

Carbs brah!

[rev210]

Funnily, we're talking about PWO supps being a waste of money with regards to fitness....so instead you suggest the consumption of alcohol? hahaha

Good point. They are both un-related to fitness, except one pretends to be and isn't.

Edited February 24, 2013 by rev210

[Birds]

Beer is a great PWO for shooting pool though...

[SRS13]

You take a PWO for batting?

Porn is usually enough for me...

Could not recommend it for you.... It will get very very very expensive!

[TM7GTR]

I have an extremely high tolerance to pre-workouts or in general...stimulants etc.

I tried Craze for a while but needed 4-5 scoops to really feel it. This is coming from someone who was using 200mcg of clenbuterol each day and eventually became completely immune to it as well as DMAA. So instead I simply finish work, train than eat some good solid carbs and protein. For almost 2 months I haven't had any supplements whatsoever. Old school is the way to go

Didn't know clen had a pre-workout type effect?

[Brotato]

:)

[TTT]

Used wraps for the first time since August last year for squats...

man.. don't miss that pain.

and that was with half arsed wrapping.

good rebound though.

and the tightness gives a nice secure feeling when you look past the burning pain on the back of the knee.. lol

[jangles]

When would you suggest to start using wraps TTT?

[TTT]

Never if you don't need to.

I've only done a best of 150kg for 3 sets of 5 squats without wraps.

Program had me doing 145 last week and 152.5 this week

so I started using them this week and will keep doing so till the comp in April.

I think you get used to them after a while... just like your hands get used to deadlifts.

I've seen blood on some peoples legs before and lots of bruises.

I had Scott at PTC Brisbane wrap me once leading up to last years Nats.

he goes, how tight do you want them?

I told him to go easy first time since I'm used to wrapping myself.

He goes ok I'll go about 50%

This 50% managed to get 2 extra loops around the knee then when I wrap "tight" at home myself..... It hurt like hell.. lol

And my wraps are the 2 meter ones which are well used Inzer ones.... compared to the 2.5 others use.

Hopefully I'll better my last PB at a slightly lighter bodyweight come April.

[jangles]

What do they Ultimately assist with then? Bad knees or?

[TTT]

squat more kilos in comp.

[Dani Boi]

Going back on SS until I hit 180kg dl, 140kg squat, 100kg bench. Didn't feel like I was getting anywhere on the other program I was on, progression felt too slow.

[Brotato]

Cardio is getting alot better, did a session today for an hour and the trainer/coach said I was getting better with my breathing and my techniques stoked!

[-FIGJAM-]

Going back on SS until I hit 180kg dl, 140kg squat, 100kg bench. Didn't feel like I was getting anywhere on the other program I was on, progression felt too slow.

I have been on the same program for about a month now, lifts have improved but my biggest issue is the gyms weight. I have to go up with 2.5kg increments rather then the 1.25 that is suggested.

Have plateaued on bench already at 60kg which I am trying to get past. Always sucked at bench for some reason, always get to 60kg and struggle to go up any further.

[rev210]

I have been on the same program for about a month now, lifts have improved but my biggest issue is the gyms weight. I have to go up with 2.5kg increments rather then the 1.25 that is suggested.

Have plateaued on bench already at 60kg which I am trying to get past. Always sucked at bench for some reason, always get to 60kg and struggle to go up any further.

Weak shoulder girdle muscles is the reason. I can tell you that a good way (other ways get there too) to get your bench max up is the following ;

a) stop doing bench press

b) Start doing work on your shoulder,.scapular and rotator cuff strength and flexibillity.

c) Gradually incorporate strict press movements

d) when you can do your bodyweight on a strict press then you can think about bench press.

e) You are only allowed to 'think' about bench press until someone shows you how to do them properly, then you can 'do' them.

Do something like this and that plateu is going to be history. Also you are going to have much better muscle balance and less risk of injury as the weight goes up.

Edited March 12, 2013 by rev210