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Hi all,

Just a notice of caution re: the Series 2 Xanavi unit-to-standard climate control conversion to others looking to do this conversion; it is not a straight swap; the wiring looms are different.

[photos of connectors showing differences to come]

More specifically the standard climate controller takes one 20-pin and one 18-pin plug, whereas the Xanavi unit takes two x 20-pin plugs and they're physically different. I will persist as I want to be rid of the damn Xanavi unit, and post my findings...

I know I have posted elsewhere (in the reversing camera thread) about this but that didn't really seem like the right place. So instead I am asking "has anybody successfully replaced their Xanavi climate control/gps/etc with a standard climate control"???

If you have, and you can share any secrets about how you did it, I would be very very grateful... at the moment I have the entire Xanavi system out and boot gear out too... poor stagea is in bits :D however I have an in-dash LCD touchscreen on the way and I want to be rid of this damned Xanavi setup. I have been through the manual and the car and it's just such a mess, three or four individual units which share about 6 or 7 wiring harnesses before sending it all up and down the car... yeah. If I at least had English wiring diagrams, I might have a hope.

Plan at this stage is to try to get hold of the climate control harness off a non-Xanavi series 2 and splice in matching colours, with the standard pinout as a reference (in Jap).

Edited by DaveB

Took some snaps, lots more research, here is the 'crux of the problem':

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As you can see it is certainly not plug-and-play... my plan of attack is to try to get hold of the two plugs (and some cable) off of the standard S2 loom and splice them to the xanavi ones... anyone have a donor S2 they are wrecking? PM me :(

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ahh i got the same prob i tihnk ... i wanna upgrade to a dvd player but climate control is touch screen and anolog ... so im thinking of just changing the tape player to a fold out dvd .... so i can still use the climate control with out f**king around too much .... good idea? ... only had my car for 3days now .. and i want radio !

ahh i got the same prob i tihnk ... i wanna upgrade to a dvd player but climate control is touch screen and anolog ... so im thinking of just changing the tape player to a fold out dvd .... so i can still use the climate control with out f**king around too much .... good idea? ... only had my car for 3days now .. and i want radio !

Yeh i was thinking of going the same way. Was speaking to my mate who works for Clarion and he had

suggested to have two screens. My bottom section is a Mini Disk player, so would just yank that out

and put in a single din fold out screen....only thing is i prefer the look of the Clarion double din screen,

and would two screens be weird? I know alot of people who have the standard screen in their Stagea's

like them, and they dont look too bad, though i just like having the extra features of an aftermarket

screen like ipod touch screen control, built in blue tooth for your phone etc. Mainly the ipod feature though

cos its annoying not to mention dangerous trying to go through an actual ipod to try and find a song or

whatever, rather than have it all up on big screen....see what happens when my car gets here i guess.

Oops, finally got some replies and I missed them!!! sorry!

Awesome Ed!!! Just what I was looking for for weeks before I gave up... if I can get hold of one of these convertors, I will give it a go! That looks like the sort of thing, as it appears to split out the video/audio signal from the climate control connections.

...ohhh waiiit a minute, 41,000Y FARK! that's over 400 bucks not including postage??! (a home job too?)

CL11QE the progress is that, I am waiting on somebody to supply me the plugs & wire off a standard climate control for a series 2 (has to be series 2, series 1's had different plugs). I've had a couple of leads (pardon the pun) but nothing has eventuated yet. Just waiting on one possibility in a Sydney wrecking yard, and one forum member.

Chook - I want to replace the screen because:

- it doesn't have a VGA connection (well not one that I can trace anyway) and is therefore too fuzzy to use for a car PC

- I need a touch screen (again, can't trace touchscreen connections)

- it's small, only 6.5 inches (hmm) but not overly bothered

- it's in japanese (again not too bothered)

- I can't use it while the vehicle's in motion (for playing audio files, of course)

I prefer stock, and I would love to use the Xanavi unit, but I just haven't been able to overcome these problems.

basically my aim is just to get a decent picture, the factory screen is low-res (about 236 lines vertically) and only has a composite input, I need 800x480 at least and an RGB input (to get text I can reeeeeaaad).

Oh, and I have tried the fold-out monitor thing, it looks something like this:

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Bear in mind, that you can't go much past vertical with the fold-up screen, as it fouls the temperature knob.

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All in all the wiring is just a pr*ck, why did they change the whole flippin harness to go from an LCD to a bigger LCD climate control? It has a whole different loom, because the RGB and audio connections for the monitor are combined into the Xanavi climate control harness, meaning that they end up with two slightly different plugs, and a completely different wiring harness... I think the designer in charge of that one needs a :O

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just a reply to DAVEB ... im currently working out a discount on i think its a kenwood flip out set up .... is has tilt adjustment as slid adjustment ... to slide in and out ...a soon as iv'e knocked it down from and gob smacking $1800 and get it installed i'll send some pics thru ...cheers

Yeh i was thinking of going the same way. Was speaking to my mate who works for Clarion and he had

suggested to have two screens. My bottom section is a Mini Disk player, so would just yank that out

and put in a single din fold out screen....only thing is i prefer the look of the Clarion double din screen,

and would two screens be weird? I know alot of people who have the standard screen in their Stagea's

like them, and they dont look too bad, though i just like having the extra features of an aftermarket

screen like ipod touch screen control, built in blue tooth for your phone etc. Mainly the ipod feature though

cos its annoying not to mention dangerous trying to go through an actual ipod to try and find a song or

whatever, rather than have it all up on big screen....see what happens when my car gets here i guess.

this is a PIONEER AVIC HD-3 if your after double din screen.. you plug an ipod into it ... and it works like a ipod as in same control's as one on the screen ... is has vehicle dynamics on display .... go youtube and check it out ... i did and now i dont want it for the price of 3500 ... i got a quote for 2,900 installed and 5yr warrenty for JB hi-fi ... as for the look .. just turn the back on off and use the aftermarket when using audio or what ever ... or put the aftermarket screen away while listening to music ... i just want my god damn am/fm radio ! so im going all out on this kenwood one to get my reverse camera (spare body parts is a bitch) and maybe down the track headrest screen for the passengers .. this kenwood has 2x AV ...2x USB ..3xRCA yada yada yada .. good luck

just a reply to DAVEB ... im currently working out a discount on i think its a kenwood flip out set up .... is has tilt adjustment as slid adjustment ... to slide in and out ...a soon as iv'e knocked it down from and gob smacking $1800 and get it installed i'll send some pics thru ...cheers

Wow, good luck with the discount! look forward to seeing it... yeah the 'slide out' bit makes it possible to get it away from the xanavi controls (so you can flip it back). I don't think it looks too bad at all to have 2 displays - still less than your average rice hatch has in the boot. And the bottom screen can fold away.

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Awesome stuff thanks Tim. They look like adapters??! Rare as...

edit: wholly sh*t, it's $463 and counting... if only we could get the wiring diagram!

Edited by DaveB
Awesome stuff thanks Tim. They look like adapters??! Rare as...

edit: wholly sh*t, it's $463 and counting... if only we could get the wiring diagram!

This is for the xanavi (albeit in japanese)

don't know if it helps you or not.

PM me if you want the rest of the service manual

xanavi_wiring.pdf

This is for the xanavi (albeit in japanese)

don't know if it helps you or not.

PM me if you want the rest of the service manual

xanavi_wiring.pdf

Thanks Gerard :P I'll see if I can decipher it... It's a job I will have to get around to SOMEtime, but for now I have just stuck with the xanavi 'cause it looks cool lol :D Plus I have gone off the idea of an LCD monitor in there a bit since I had a bit of trouble with heat trying to get (or rather, keep) a car PC going. So for now I have just kept it simple...

Wow, good luck with the discount! look forward to seeing it... yeah the 'slide out' bit makes it possible to get it away from the xanavi controls (so you can flip it back). I don't think it looks too bad at all to have 2 displays - still less than your average rice hatch has in the boot. And the bottom screen can fold away.

haha couldnt work out why i took these pics, now this thread has popped up :P

got the thingy in the boot, so sub and reverse camera is easy to plug and play :D

and knocked it down from $1800 to $1450 installed.

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Hey that's a *nice* setup TJ! congratulations. Looks stock too which I LIKE. The fold-out screens are great for that.

I would've kept my cd stacker probably if it worked a bit better. Could be a little flaky at times with some CD's (more just the nature of CDs I think).

So what functions does the Kenwood give you - I am guessing DVD's and digital tv? What is the resolution of the display like? You get a reversing camera hooked up?

yeah gives you GPS if you buy a module to plug in at the rear. rip out factory one.

got my reverse camera hooked up, sits inside the car just below the break light on the back window. at night no so good, going to get it put into the spoiler at some stage. i got it hooked up to a constant power supply so when the boot is fully loaded, and i can use the camera and a rear view mirror :ninja:

iPod connection, digital camera connection, USB connection. can run 2 option screens, and havs 3xRCA. pretty sure if can run tv also, i remember wanting to get one so i guess it would otherwise i wouldn't

of thought about it, but their not cheap :S

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