R33 series 1 or 2 whats better?

[SXY R33]

guys just like to know what the main differnce between the 2 series of r33 are. Was there proplems that where rectrufired(spelling) in the 2nd series. or just was a new batch?

this will helping me in chosing between series 1 or 2. (series 1 so much cheaper to buy).

cheers

[memphis]

series 2 has the airbags, different front bar & wing and several other minor differences.

seek...and you shall find

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/search.php

[Grim]

Series 1 R33's are much faster and better looking. Hope that helps

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by Grim

Series 1 R33's are much faster and better looking. Hope that helps

:bahaha: yeah right!

s2 has a few more luxury features, and is more classy by far!!

most r33's in aus are series 1

[akeenan]

Series 1 R33's are much faster and better looking. Hope that helps

i think he was joking....well lets hope so anyhow....

buy whatever you like the looks of more because when things come down to it...it wont really matter...

also with the luxury features.... inside of the s2 might be slightly nicer and may come with airbags etc but there are quiet a few s1's around with special features that the s2's dont have. but this also works vice versa

[SXY R33]

so apart from cosmetic features the r33 series 1 and 2 are about the same.??

[akeenan]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...&threadid=17349

[sewid]

Originally posted by akeenan

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...&threadid=17349

All those differences + different AFM.

[SXY R33]

ta should look at bit harder next time before posting

[predator]

Personally i like the s1 more than the s2 and don't think its worth the extra $ a S2 goes for generally...

There is basically no inherant advantages mechanically in an s2, other than its 96 or newer newer, so probably less likelihood of problems. You might get an extra airbag and ABS *shrug*

Interior, slightly more modern looking seats but same basic thing in placement of switches, etc *shrug*. You wouldn't sit in one in other words and things its a totally different car.

Exterior - s2 more boxy looking at the front but i don't like those foglamp things on the stock bumper.. with a kit the s1 looks a bit curvier which i like..

If you can find a good series1 for the right price go for it, you'll probably get one with a few mods for the same price you'll get a stock S2. If you find a good priced S2 then go for that

If you like really newer style, and have some cash to spend ...get an R34 GTT rather than spending too much extra on a S2 R33

[rs73]

I feel that S1 velvety seat material is nicer than S2 cloth like material finish. However S2 steering wheel looks a bit nicer with airbag, but you can't change it as it will be illegal to remove airbag if you have one.

Front end wise, I agree the curvier S1 boot line looks better than the square-ish type of S2, plus most S2 rear wing also have that square style, rather than just sweeping low curve in S1.

But with S2 you get 2 airbags, and only late S1 you get driver's airbag. Plus many S2 comes with ABS (still a factory option) and only a few of S1 comes with ABS (although mine has ABS )

And if you love sunroof, you have a better chance finding an R33 with sunroof in S1 shape rather than S2. I dunno why but this was the case when I browse through dealers ads or jap auction data. Maybe cause Nissan didn't produce S2 as many as S1, therefore finding anything is a bit difficult due to limited qty.

[JimX]

I think the most important thing to note is that there are no "big" issues in the series 1 R33 that needed to be fixed for series 2. This is the huge difference between Skylines and local cars like Commodores and Falcons, where any series 1 is usually a "beta" version requiring lots of fixing for the series 2.

The series change in an R33 is almost entirely an upgrade of the look and standard features, but even then it's not necessarily a simple choice to buy one just because of those reasons. For example, many people prefer the curvier series 1 front bar, and many also prefer the more expensive velour interior of the series 1. I have heard a story that the interior of the series 2 was "downgraded" to cloth to help pay for the passenger air bag without jacking the price up.

It all comes down to your personal preference in the end, but one thing you CAN'T say about it like you can with Commodores and Falcons is "get the series 2 because the series 1 is full of bugs".

So just go for the look you want, the features you want, within your price range, and don't worry too much about any "issues" that might be associated with the earlier models because there are hardly any worth noting

[Yakuza]

Removal of air bag is not illegal

[antuanstylar]

what about the half cast series 1 / series 2, the 95 model which has airbags different airflow meter to series 1, s2 wing but s1 mspec bumper?

[Maxx]

Originally posted by Yakuza

Removal of air bag is not illegal

if the airbag is factory standard instead of option, it is illegal;)

[JimX]

Originally posted by antuanstylar

what about the half cast series 1 / series 2, the 95 model which has airbags different airflow meter to series 1, s2 wing but s1 mspec bumper?

Some would argue that the 95 model is the best of both worlds. I might be one of those people I know that when I was looking for an R33 I actively sought out a series 1 primarily for the velour interior. The airbag and higher spoiler was a bonus so for me the 95 model was the optimal model.

That aside, if I could have found a series 2 for the same price or only a little bit more I might have bought a series 2 instead. But only because it'd be a newer car. A year ago the price difference between series 1 and 2 was up to $10k (depending on where you looked) and it just wasn't worth the extra money for me. Today the price difference is much less so I would consider a series 2 depending on price.

[R31Nismoid]

engine is different too i thought?

the series II RB25DET has VVT where the series I engine does not?

am i correct in saying that?

[b0neR]

dont think so...VVT woulda been mentioned as it is quite a difference, the way it works may of changed a little bit (more so a computer thing) but both engines have variable timing.

[ix9]

Yep, I'm loving the Series 1.5 (best of both i reckon)

Different AFM, igniter module (basically, it's a seriesII engine) and it's still got the ceramic (not plastic) turbo wheels of the series 1.

i like the velour seats better, i have the s2 wing, but not the front bar... but i'll replace that with a 400R item anyway...

[Ronin 09]

I have a late '95, and bought it without knowing it was a bit of a frankenstein... the ECU is sweet - seems to 'learn' a bit better than the S1 or S2s...

BTW, what should i look for with the AFM? How is it different? I know i don't have the igniter box on top of the coil cover, which supposedly makes it a S2 motor (correct??!?!)