R35 Gt-r Vs Rx7 - Touge

[lingeringsoul]

fastest RX7 around tsukuba is the Panspeed RX7 I think. with 56 or 57 sec.......fastest time for the circuit are all 54-55 second mark.

[Ultimategtr]

meh.. was kinda expecting that outcome.. kinda boring..

[Bumblebee]

3rd place- #22 Pro-Staff R Magic FD3S Mazda RX-7 (Best Lap: 55.947sec, Top Speed: 217.742 km/h)

fastest rx7 this year... but it was beat by 2 GTR's.. R34 me thinks but 55.94 secs is fkn quick lol

[m3gtr]

oh yes indeed it is...

[blur]

Was it just me or did that rx7 have much more stick than the GT-R did on the straighter parts of the track? I think the 35 did very well. Was not completly outclassed in the corners and braking, and hasnt had 12 years of development like the rx7 does too. Very impressive for its weight. Now Mr Nissan, can we have a lightweight version of this car!

[madbung]

Thats a fairly heavily developed rx, the gtr sounds almost whisper quite in comparison.... Was it just a stock road car?

Sorry I don't speak Japanese...but I did catch them say the rx had a killer engine.

Was a fun clip, thx.

Edited June 22, 2008 by madbung

[Ultimategtr]

what im waiting for tho is when someone is able to do a full transplant of the 35R running gear into a 34/33/32r chassis. that would be a major task but imagine the possibilities???!!

the R32/33/34 weigh around 300kgs lighter then the 35r.. that thing will easily do 10's on the stock engine and road tyres maybe!

[sewid]

what im waiting for tho is when someone is able to do a full transplant of the 35R running gear into a 34/33/32r chassis. that would be a major task but imagine the possibilities???!!

the R32/33/34 weigh around 300kgs lighter then the 35r.. that thing will easily do 10's on the stock engine and road tyres maybe!

35 GT-R will do 10's on the stock engine on stock tires with stock interior so obviously a lighter car would do it too.

[madbung]

There's probably 100kg + of wiring and electronics, strenghtening the chassis to take the weight and power.

Doubt it'd come in much under the r35's weight, if at all.

[teejay]

There's probably 100kg + of wiring and electronics, strenghtening the chassis to take the weight and power.

Doubt it'd come in much under the r35's weight, if at all.

Haha you have to be kidding me.

No interior, CF bits etc.

Heres the real kicker - The GTR is on stock standard tyres - so the faux pas R-Comps

The FD is on real deal Advan R-comps.

Id love to see it re run with both cars on the same tyres, the RX7 would get hosed.

On street tyres the RX7 would have no traction, and the GTR on R-comps would have so much more grip.

Expected result anyhow, highly modded FD which are a fantastic handling car as is versus light modded heavy and big car.

[GTS4WD]

RE Amemia churnes out the most insane Rotors ever.

But my son of rajab can Tsuchiya drive! Look at that steering work!

[madbung]

Haha you have to be kidding me.

No interior, CF bits etc.

Heres the real kicker - The GTR is on stock standard tyres - so the faux pas R-Comps

The FD is on real deal Advan R-comps.

Id love to see it re run with both cars on the same tyres, the RX7 would get hosed.

On street tyres the RX7 would have no traction, and the GTR on R-comps would have so much more grip.

Expected result anyhow, highly modded FD which are a fantastic handling car as is versus light modded heavy and big car.

Nah I'm not kidding at all...so why not strip the r35 and swap some carbon fibre panels.

Like for like... by the time all the added electronics are moved across and you strengthen the chassis of the r34 to handle it + new mounting points ect. You can't just slap it in there and throw some plates on it.

It'd be very close in weight... Just think about it a little.

[teejay]

Nah I'm not kidding at all...so why not strip the r35 and swap some carbon fibre panels.

Like for like... by the time all the added electronics are moved across and you strengthen the chassis of the r34 to handle it + new mounting points ect. You can't just slap it in there and throw some plates on it.

It'd be very close in weight... Just think about it a little.

Because MCR havnt gotten that far with the car - I have no doubt sooner rather then later it will lose its interior, sound deadening, and anything it doesnt need.

At the time of filming the car wasnt that far developed.

Your telling me that the FD has added 300kg or so by putting in a boost controller, ecu, intercooler and bigger brakes?

Put the pipe down.

[m3gtr]

RE Amemia churnes out the most insane Rotors ever.

But my son of rajab can Tsuchiya drive! Look at that steering work!

He's overdriving the car.

Any racer will tell you that. Even i was told when i was racing superkarts that "less is more" - the less input through the wheel, the faster you will be grasshopper.

It makes sense - wheel movement costs you time.

Simple as that.

[madbung]

Because MCR havnt gotten that far with the car - I have no doubt sooner rather then later it will lose its interior, sound deadening, and anything it doesnt need.

At the time of filming the car wasnt that far developed.

Your telling me that the FD has added 300kg or so by putting in a boost controller, ecu, intercooler and bigger brakes?

Put the pipe down.

I'm not saying anything about the fd at all...never did.

Now for a 3rd time.

I was replying to the suggestion that an r34 with r35 running gear would be lighter than the r35 because the r34 is "300kg"lighter than an r35. As I said previously..........

By the time you put all the running gear across plus the shit load of electronics and plumbing to match, strengthen the chassis and fabricate new mounting points it will no longer be 300kg lighter.

You say the r34 is 300kg lighter, I say when every thing is swapped over there wouldn't be much in it.

You went off on some tangent re: put carbon fibre bla bla....then I said you could do the same with the r35 so why bother?

So like for like.. you build an r34/5 street car or track car it'll end up around the same as a comparable r35.

Your lack of basic comprehension is astounding. Still got an issue?

Put he pipe down????? insulting little shit...

Get a clue.

[Shaolin242]

LOL @ "Little"

i agree with u btw - by the time u brace the chassis/floorpan and take into account everything else weight would be spot on the 35's

[AndyMac]

GTR's must get sick of getting beaten by whimpy little rotors

R34 - Done, beaten, Touge Champion

R35 - Done, beaten...

[Roy]

Just to clarify teh R35 does have exhaust and breathing mods and upgraded suspension and light weight carbon/kevlar Bride seats. And Advan Neova are not semi slicks, they are performance tyres much like what the GTR was running. If anything they are a generation behind the Dunlops so not as good a tyre.

[madaz07]

was a good battle the 35 is quicker then the 34 throught the corners

[N1GTR]

No suprise there, the rx7 had that sorted from the start