What's Your Opinion?

[BJV]

Hey guys this is my first time posting a new topic so i'm sorry if it's in the wrong place.

I was looking at the for sale section and I saw a topic about a guy wanting to make his gtst look like a gtr. In his post he asked about putting GTR badges on his car which i thought was a fair enough question but afeter scrolling dow the page I found that everyone was absolutely ripping him to shreds saying things like "If you put GTR badges on a GTST your car should be keyed and you should be executed". It got to the point where his next post read like a mini emotional break down. A whole bunch of administrators got on and apologised to the guy and then all the blokes that tore strips off him got on and semi-apologised/justified thier earlier comments. They were saying things like "it's not as bad as a GTR badge on an excel", "it'll never be a real gtr" blah blah blah... ect... ect...

The bottom line is I just want to know what the big deal was?

A mate of mine has a GTST that he's built up and it's putting out 320ish kw at the wheels and he's about to put the 3 litre bottom end on it aiming for around the 450kw mark. That'd make it 2-3 times more powerful than my gtr. I wouldn't give a rats if he bought a GTR badge from the wreckers and glued it to his boot lid. It's not a gtr, it's faster than a gtr! well faster than mine anyway and we've both spent about the same money on our cars.

What does everyone else think?

[axe s]

Not defending the people that tore strips of them but their is more to a GTR than it's speed.... i don't own a GTR, i own a 4door GTST thats getting tuned for around 300kw at the moment i personally wouldn't put a GTR badge on it as it's not a GTR. I'll be proud of the car i have not label it as something i want.

I personally hate seeing a GTST thats badged as a GTR, It's like seeing a holden executive with HSV badges it just ain't right...

[GTR-N1]

Isn't there an old saying: "Imitation Is The Greatest Form Of Flattery"

I don't think that that guy would have ever try to pass off his car as a GT-R at the point of sale. Perhaps he'd like to receive the cred that GT-R owners might think they have.

For a while in the early 90s, a lot of E36 BMW owners took their badge model off the boot lid and stuck an M3 badge there.

Remember that? They'd buy M3 mirrors, M3 wheels, M3 diffuser bars, M3 exhaust tips etc etc

Nowadays, they might try and make their car look like an M3 even to the expense of an M3 front guard vent, but they usually put only the M badge on, or none at all.

I think it's an ego thing. Guys will tend to do this more than girls.

RTA promotes the title 'Personalised Plates' to sell more. In the USA they call them 'Vanity Plates' because in truth, that's exactly what they are.

So even whilst most of us who'd own a GTsT or GTT would never try to make it look like a GT-R, I think it crosses our minds IMHO.

Cheers, T

[funkymonkey]

Thing with Skyline owners is that they're an odd bunch that are half torn between purists and modders. If you look at other marques other than skylines, usually the owners are of one type or the other, they'll either restore it immaculately using period parts or matching numbered parts etc (eg: antique car collectors, rare edition collectors), or they'll completely mod it to the point where you can't recognise it (eg: excel owners, pontiac fiero owners).

Unfortunately the GTR is a unique car, but its not exactly a collectable car... its fun to modify, but its also got that certain aura of respect. So what you get are a bunch of people who are purists when it comes to badging, and other aesthetics, but are completely fine with hacking the car to bits to make it perform better etc. Now given that its a community full of people like that, if you put a GTR badge on a GTSt, no one will care if it has the muscle to back the claim, but if it doesn't it will be met with a sneer or scorn.

[axe s]

I don't know about the purist theory... i just don't see the point, what does putting a badge on the car achieve...

I don't see anything wrong with owning a GTST, especially if it has power. Show that it has been done from a GTST, Be proud of what you have....

The badge doesn't fool anyone and thats all it's there for, to tell people what you have...

[Sklyn]

So what about when people turn a VW into a porsche or the likes??

Personally I don't think you should put GTR badges on a GTST. Be proud of what it is..

I'm not a purist, mod as much as you want, but the badge is a statment of its own, telling people what it is.

Most people here would know without badges at all..

Would you tell people it was a GTR if it had the badging??

[Bakes]

Does it have a RB26 Dett under the bonnet? If the answer is NO, it is not a GTR

[GUN_METAL_GTR32]

my opinion is its gay.

agreed with all the posts here mimicking the "better" version of a car is tacky.

another example is merc drivers who put AMG badges on there car, i hate it even more when they put BRABUS badges on there c200's thinking there all gangsta

[babyskyline]

I think its pahetic. Just shows some people are as bad as the tools in commodores who put on HSV stickers/badges.

You might have a fair bit of power but all in all it never has been and never will be a GTR no matter what you do to it.

Live with the fact that you own a gtst, be proud of it and stop trying to make it something it never will be.

[Johnny]

It may be the wrong thing to do but it dosent mean that people have the right to become animals about it and throw terrible insults.

Bullying and even e-bullying can be very serious, as bad as traumatising someone in real life.

Not everyone is as emotionally 'thick' as others, some are just human beings with real feelings.

[BJV]

Hmm... I think this will be one of those things that I just wont ever get. It's always just been three letters stuck together that look really good to me. I love the way the badge looks in the same way that I like the way particular bodykits or colours look on a car. Thanks for all of your input though. Sorry if I can't see the light. Nissan didn't make all their skylines equal but I'm sure they love them all the same lol.

Does it have a RB26 Dett under the bonnet? If the answer is NO, it is not a GTR

so If someone puts an rb26 in a gts4 does that make it a gtr?

If I owned a gtst but used the gtr in forza or gran turismo am I cheating?... Ok that one's not a serious question...

seriously though, even though I still don't understand why some people treat the gtr badge likereligiousios symbol thanks for replying with serious posts.

[Julz89]

its not a gtr unless it came from factory as a gtr.

[funkymonkey]

its not a gtr unless it came from factory as a gtr.

technically my chassis is the same as a GTR, even though its a GTS4. So if I unbolted all the things on my chassis that made it a GTS4 and bolted on all the GTR bits, would it be a GTR? For all intents and purposes it would be identical to a GTR.

sometimes its more an emotional stance than a rational one.

[babyskyline]

In the end you can change everything and put all the running gear of a gtr onto a gtst or gts4 but when you put the vin through nissan fast it will come up saying its a gtst/gts4.

[(B1) MR_fanny]

it would be like me putting a ferrari badge on my car cause it has round tail lights and ive always wanted a ferrari.

its like beamers with the fake M badge. im a purist lol. my only exception is if the cars got an rb26dett under the bonnet. the car could be making 1000hp but if its not from an rb26 it shouldnt have a GTR badge. like someone pointed out the gtr is more than just how fast your car is.

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

cause it's not a GTR.. what about the 4wd..

only q i got though.. you said it'll be faster than ur GTR.. however your car lists in your profile as a R34 GT Four???

[JI34GT]

IMO, If the car didnt leave the factory a GTR (or whatever car) it will never be a GTR. I dont care if you have RB26DETT, fact is, it never will be a true GTR, it will be a GTST with a very nice engine conversion. Not to say that doesnt warrant your car to be a good car. I just dont agree with pretending to be something its not. If its a normal gtst or whatever, just be happy with what it is and dont make it something its obviously not.

With that said, I just find it lame but wouldnt go verbally harassing someone over it. If they choose to then its their choice and should be prepared for negative comments from others.

Honestly, just be proud of the car that you already have and instead of spending money on badges, spend it something worthwhile and it'll get the respect it deserves.

end rant/

[Julz89]

well said totally agree

[Bakes]

Each to their own, if it makes you happy, do it

[BJV]

cause it's not a GTR.. what about the 4wd..

only q i got though.. you said it'll be faster than ur GTR.. however your car lists in your profile as a R34 GT Four???

sorry mate i should've been clearer, it was faster than my gtr. It's even faster now because my gtr now resembles a crushed coke can. A hard lesson indeed. Actually it's not even a a lie, what's left of that car is still in the shed so i guess i still do own a gtr lol.

After seeing what everyone else has said I may as well throw my 2 cents in since the title is "what's your opinion". If some kid wants to stick badges on his car he may as well. It'll never be a gtr but then again I doubt that anyone that would badge their car like that would claim that it is. They'd just be making do with what they've got. trust me I know about making do with what you've got.

I've now decided to badge my parents's car as a nissan statesman, my gf's car as a mazda GTR and my car as a holden astina gts4.

Sorry guys, I see all the points your making but I don't agree. I guess I'll never have the same passion for a badge that some of you share. don't take it personally, I just have a rule of not taking things too seriously so on that note, i'm out.

P.s. I wont really badge my gf's astina as a mazda gtr... all my old gtr badges were damadged and it would look silly with cracked gtr badges on it.