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R31Nismoid
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No doubt they are animals, but when response counts (if the courses are indeed as tight as above) then you really want -7/GT30 style setups for max response, you'll be faster that way

unique1
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t04z too laggy for any track work unless its a big open circuit event and u like keeping it above 4500rpm all day, even the gt3540 ive seen isnt that much nicer response wise. If u plan any sort of mo

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DCIEVE Mentor

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I believe that plot is for cerbera (the other simon), not quite as full on as the original.

Agree T04GTR, my 35r is far from boring (esp rwd) but it doesnt compare to the nothing nothing bang and scream to the limiter of a mates hks t04z - but he is cheating with a jun stroker :P he also has awd so its not a very fair comparison I spose.

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I believe that plot is for cerbera (the other simon), not quite as full on as the original.

Agree T04GTR, my 35r is far from boring (esp rwd) but it doesnt compare to the nothing nothing bang and scream to the limiter of a mates hks t04z - but he is cheating with a jun stroker :P he also has awd so its not a very fair comparison I spose.

Ahh fair enough :)

My GT35R should be on in a month or so and I will post the tyre frying results :(

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I believe that plot is for cerbera (the other simon), not quite as full on as the original.

Agree T04GTR, my 35r is far from boring (esp rwd) but it doesnt compare to the nothing nothing bang and scream to the limiter of a mates hks t04z - but he is cheating with a jun stroker :down: he also has awd so its not a very fair comparison I spose.

come on i was carrying an extra 400kg than you too so i think the stroker is fair :P Pity u never took me for a spin to compare it though, looks like i'll have to wait a while

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Simon aka R32-GTS is who DCIEVE is talking about (I think :)). Too much headwork to compare to any old 26 with a T04Z

It's Cerberas graph.

I used that one instead of Natallottos because Cerbera has no head porting, and just mild 270 degree cams.

The 35R has been scaled 5% to take into account its on a hubber.

It's the closest thing I could get to a fair comparisson between the two, and subsequently, I've just purchased a 35R.

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hey how did yours come up michael? obviously happy with the results!

here is a link to our car running a HKS TO4Z setup at the Bathurst sprint a few weeks ago, overall the results we pretty good but takes abit to get use to as we are use to running small twin setups.

we limited boost to 25psi which made approx 430 awkw's on the rollers, fiddled with cams a fair bit whiched helped the middle alot, i think full boost was around 4700 - 4800.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lf6opg6Mdt0

cheers russ

p.s i prefer more response, but the single rush was good too. wouldnt be as much fun on a tight track

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Spoolup has a to4z on his rb30det.

There's a few dyno sheets on the link below.

http://www.spoolimports.com/content/SpoolImportsR33.asp

R34 NEO head - HKS 272 / 9.35 cams, Performance Valve Springs

Garrett T04Z turbo 0.96 ex housing

23psi 581rwhp.

The boosts knee so to speak appears to be a little after 4000rpm.

A pair of 272 10.5mm lift cams would work much better on his setup.

As for a GT35 pushing more than a genuine 400rwkw (535rwhp) on the RB with pump fuel. I'm not a believer. :)

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As for a GT35 pushing more than a genuine 400rwkw (535rwhp) on the RB with pump fuel. I'm not a believer. :D

Thats unfortunate, it has been done time and time again and all going well I'll hopefully be able to post a plot for another one in a month.

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It's Cerberas graph.

I used that one instead of Natallottos because Cerbera has no head porting, and just mild 270 degree cams.

The 35R has been scaled 5% to take into account its on a hubber.

It's the closest thing I could get to a fair comparisson between the two, and subsequently, I've just purchased a 35R.

From the horses mouth :D

My 35R is so close to being on I can feel the happiness in my pants stirring :D

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hey how did yours come up michael? obviously happy with the results!

here is a link to our car running a HKS TO4Z setup at the Bathurst sprint a few weeks ago, overall the results we pretty good but takes abit to get use to as we are use to running small twin setups.

we limited boost to 25psi which made approx 430 awkw's on the rollers, fiddled with cams a fair bit whiched helped the middle alot, i think full boost was around 4700 - 4800.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lf6opg6Mdt0

cheers russ

p.s i prefer more response, but the single rush was good too. wouldnt be as much fun on a tight track

Hey Russ,

yep we are only running 20psi at the moment, 330kw, fair way short of the big T04Z. havent touched the cams. full boost around 4300rpm. Will get to QR at the first Timeattack and see how it goes.

I'm thinking down the track try some fuel and 26psi. :D

Maybe for superlap!! :D

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we limited boost to 25psi which made approx 430 awkw's on the rollers, fiddled with cams a fair bit whiched helped the middle alot, i think full boost was around 4700 - 4800

Sounds almost like he'd have been happier with a GT35R :D I'm pretty sure that power would be achieveable with 25psi on race gas, and in my experience a GT35R feels a bit more lively underfoot than a pair of GT2860-5s.

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yeah, I'm thinking 26psi and some good fuel, I should touch up 400kw on the 2.6 35R combo. will look at that hopefully for superlap! :D

Between the gears, down low it's just awesome. Can't wait to put more boost into it, I'm sure it will come alive.

wrxkilla Mentor

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defo, would be great

post the link! :)

not that we want to go too off topic, but heres my on-car footage.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=g8aiGRO5Ifk

NXTIME Grand Master

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yeah, i just think the 35 is boring compared to t04z, besides hks doesnt do a gt35 equivalent.... lagmaster ftw. :)

Correct. The closest thing that HKS have to a GT35R is the GT3240 (rated by HKS at 580hp), which is a GT35R with a cut-back rear wheel and 0.87 housing ;)

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