Defect

[gazal]

On my way back to the office yesterday on Chesterville rd, there was just 2 cops random breath test. I pass the breath test but the cop decided to ask me to pop the bonnet I got done for having a BOV later he also decided to fine me with the exhaust without even testing to see if it is over the legal limit. Are they allowed to fine you for this? without asking you to go and get it tested?

[Ruffels]

he can defect you, however he can only suspect that your exhaust is too loud, and can issue you with an epa notice, however as far as i know, he is unable to actually fine you for the exhaust... are you sure you didn't recieve the fine for the defect (bov)

[gazal]

Im sure the fine is not just for the bov, it written on the defect paper both for BOV and loud exhaust, he never even asked me to rev the motor, my car was on idle when he decided to say that the exhaust is too loud.

[R31Nismoid]

That's Victorian law.

They can just report you willy nilly without proof, evidence or otherwise.

If your exhaust is legal (when you get it tested) IMO lodge a freedom of information request to the EPA, get the officers name, number and so on and take him to court.

They law really needs to be changed so that they cannot report people without fact.

[gazal]

There's no report nor epa letter just a " u change your exhaust system that's illegal" The only thing i've change the the muffler the exhaust system is still stock. Anyway i'm getting the exhaust test today at 10:30

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Thats why I hate aftermarket BOV, they are pointless and just give noise and you already have the stock one.

I remember you car is pretty stock except for the FMIC, Boost controller and Exhaust, so you probley won't have to do so much work to get it cleared.

I suggest you put your stock cat back exhaust on and get the defect cleared.

Wait about a week or 2 then if you get a EPA notice you gota take your car to the EPA so they can test your car is quiet / meets the correct db levels.

In which I strongly advise you to remove the BOV and keep your stock exhaust on!

All the best!

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I strongly advise you to remove the BOV

i strongly agree

[gazal]

Well guys i failed the test it around 100db @ 5k rpm. The guy said he couldn't give me a epa cert, since i've dont have a epa letter. So i need to borrow a stock r33 s2 muffler if anyone has one that i can borrow for a week or so i would appreciated.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

yeah, my car's 89@ idle.... so i'm guesin @ 5k its gonna be a lil louder

steel wool?

[(B1) MR_fanny]

you wouild need an epa notice to get it filled out to actually clear the defect if im not mistaken. i think vic roads sites it in order to remove the defect. I'd say you may be getting one in the mail some time soon.

100db is mega loud considering you just replaced your muffler. I got 96 with 3" turbo back with hi flow cat on my dual exhaust. I can reccomend a listed tester once you fit the stocker back on.

[dezz]

I got 92db with stock cat/cat back on my first test....

[R31Nismoid]

Well guys i failed the test it around 100db @ 5k rpm. The guy said he couldn't give me a epa cert, since i've dont have a epa letter. So i need to borrow a stock r33 s2 muffler if anyone has one that i can borrow for a week or so i would appreciated.

lol 100db @ 4700 (4700 is the test point from memory)... thats fairly loud so i can see why the officer will dob you in.

You didnt get a on the spot notice did you?

Because you'll be getting one in the mail (EPA letter) and THATS when you go get it tested.

You might as well take this opportunity to put a stock or GTR BOV on (i have some for sale )

And also get the exhaust back to a more reasonable level to avoid such attention again

[gazal]

Yes it was an on the spot fine/notice plus i only have until 25th of feb to clear the defect.

[180Roman]

when i was reading at the start i though

"defected for too loud just sitting at idle, thats not fair"

then i read that you put out 100dBs at the test and LOLed

[Johnny]

Its 90dB legal limit i was told when i got mine tested; ummm for twin turbo's the rpm is like 5000

[mcdee]

Well guys i failed the test it around 100db @ 5k rpm. The guy said he couldn't give me a epa cert, since i've dont have a epa letter. So i need to borrow a stock r33 s2 muffler if anyone has one that i can borrow for a week or so i would appreciated.

i got one you can borrow.

[gazal]

Well i still dont really understand. The cop gave me until the 25th of feb to clear the defect. If epa letter arrives in 1-2 weeks that means my car is not drivable????

[W0rp3D]

If its the same as my defect you can drive the car as much as you like untill the 25th and after that date you can only drive it to a repairer or vic roads for another 21 days then the rego gets suspended.

Also is it a major or minor defect, will say on the defect notice, if the exhaust is on the defect notice then you have to get it fixed before the defect can be cleared, go to who ever your going to get an rwc through (assuming its a major) and see what they want you to do.

The fine will most likely be for driving and unroadworthy vehicle.

[gazal]

cool thanks for clarifying. its a minor defect..

Anyone go a stock r33 s2 exhaust i can borrow?

[KURAUN]

minor defect is easy, least u dont need rwc