Gtr Suspension - Racepace Tein Or Dms

[NickR33]

I was adamant I wasn't going to fiddle with anything on the GTR for a while but the suspension is starting to sh!t me... Its got Tein RE's in it and the rears are way too hard (I think the springs are around 12kg/mm front and back)... it makes the rear bounce over bumps in the road and if that happens whilst your WOT it has a habit of changing lanes rapidly... with 550bhp+ its a little unsettling

I would have put this in the suspension section but wanted feedback from the Vic guys running the Racepace/Fulcrum modded Teins... I have never been for a ride in a car with Ben's suspension so have nothing to compare to... I will try and hit someone up for a ride at Deca... not that the skidpan is a good test, you could run with concrete blocks in place of coilovers and it wouldn't be a problem lol

So my question is, should I get the RE's rebuilt or go for some Drummond Motorsport coilovers? I've heard good things about the DMS stuff and it looks to be just within my budget... anyone have it on their GTR's?

Are there any other options I'm forgetting? I know what Ben will say if I call him so keen to get some feedback before I do

[Ant97GTR]

Nick....the question is whether the DMS stuff is good for the R straight out of the box. If not and they need some tweaking by Benno then you've spent money on new gear and then have to spend money tweaking them.

I'd be tempted to stick the the Teins and get Benno to mod them.

[NickR33]

yeah good point... the DMS stuff is custom built so I would think they would be fairly on the money but I would be pretty annoyed if they weren't and needed some tweaking... in that case would be much more cost effective to stick with the Teins

[_Ryan_]

Well, if the DMS is a better quality shock, why not get some made up to Ben's specs?

And on the same topic, would you get better ride quality over the Teins using a Bilstein/Eibach package to Ben's specs?

[NickR33]

Fulcrum do the Teins for Ben so not sure they will want to hand over the specs so I can get another company to supply me... maybe spring rates but their not going to give me any details about valving etc

I'm not after a buttery smooth ride just want to be able to put the power down better and not have the rear 'hop' over bumps... my last car had Bilsteins and they had the opposite problem... too soft in the rear so it was nice on the street but not great for the track... if I was after solely a street shock I would look at the Bilsteins again

[Snowman]

I really can't fault Ben's Teins. They are really nice on the road (not harsh at all) and we all know how good they go on the track.

I know he's done the RA's, RS' and what ever Chris has but he basically couldn't do bugger all with my old HA's - they were crap no matter what. Not sure what the scoop with the RE's are however - thats something you'd have to ask Ben.

Having said all of that whilst I have no experience with DMS in Skylines I have in EVO's and they are also very good (these were the DMS 50's). Having them set-up right is the only question but I'm sure Ben could arrange that regardless.

[NickR33]

Thanks Snowy... I think I'm going to have to call and price all the options up to make a decision... see if he can work with the RE's and if not see what he thinks of the DMS... what do you have in your car? (probably not within my budget lol)

[JAGR33]

Nick, the RE's are the same as the RA's except for height adjustment from the bottom of the shock.

Don't kid yourself, Ben IS the man.

You won't look back...

[Roy]

LOL, Ben is the man not because he can do stuff to GTRs, but for what he was able to do to that behemoth that was JFKs 3000GT. It was WAY COOL!

[tangomatt]

I am in the same boat. I am contemplating suspension upgrade as my Nismo S Tunes are not up to my expectations. Benno has quoted me for a set of Tein REs with his custom springs and re-valving etc. His quote is not cheap, but I am confident that it will be better than anything off the shelf.

By the way, Benno will be putting my HKS stroker and V Cam in as soon as the bits arrive from Japan.

[SS8_Gohan]

what's the ballpark figure you're looking at with Racepace's suspension kit?

[Roy]

Well the shocks new are something like 250,000yen depending on whether they are RA/RE/RS or Super Racing...so

[BBGTR]

I have the RE setup in my R32 and am happy with the setup for the track and the occasional trip into work.

Anything that is of high quality will not be cheap.

[ujin]

nick, talk to chris from centerline and see what he recommends. he knows his stuff.. haha..

[LotusGTR]

Well I must smell cos Benno wouldn't even quote me for suspension work. Poor me.

Anyhow, last week I fitted DMS 50mm to my car. Today the car gets a proper alignment. Initial feedback is hard to give at this stage as I've driven it so little, and it's not set up yet. I have a full thread devoted to this decision.

I can recommend Techsport in Bayswater who did the fitting. Product price was better than advertised on this forum, and they were happy to do custom fabrication to avoid having to use spherical top mounts (more cost, less compliance and they wear out). Plus I understand they do alignment work for Benno (who seems to like to outsource - valving to Fulcrum, alignment to Techsport.......).

Let me know if you want a chat or even a ride in my car.

[tangomatt]

I would like to see how your DMS setup performs. How much did the setup cost if you don't mind me asking. You can pm me if you prefer. Thanks LotusGTR

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[NickR33]

Jack: Thanks mate I knew they were similar but wasn't 100%... yeah I know he's the man;

BBGTR: Yeah not aiming for 'cheap' but want to keep it reasonable... when talking suspension the sky's the limit it seems... if your ever in my area perhaps I could get a ride in your beast?

LotusGTR: I would love a chat and maybe a ride in your machine once you get it setup... let me know

Tangomatt: if I go for the DMS you could grab my old RE's and have Benno work his magic on them... would be cheaper than sourcing new ones off the shelf from Japan... HKS stroker and Vcam! drooool

The dollar vs yen is terrible so its more cost effective to keep my RE's and get them rebuilt... I'll have to get a quote and see how it compares to the DMS 50mm

[Roy]

Sorry, that is my fault. I think my car has ruined it for all silver R32s out there as it seems they all catch on fire on the dyno, have seized bolts and are generally buckets. Not the case with your car...but i have tarred a whole model and colour of car

Well I must smell cos Benno wouldn't even quote me for suspension work. Poor me.

Anyhow, last week I fitted DMS 50mm to my car. Today the car gets a proper alignment. Initial feedback is hard to give at this stage as I've driven it so little, and it's not set up yet. I have a full thread devoted to this decision.

I can recommend Techsport in Bayswater who did the fitting. Product price was better than advertised on this forum, and they were happy to do custom fabrication to avoid having to use spherical top mounts (more cost, less compliance and they wear out). Plus I understand they do alignment work for Benno (who seems to like to outsource - valving to Fulcrum, alignment to Techsport.......).

Let me know if you want a chat or even a ride in my car.

[NickR33]

I have a full thread devoted to this decision.

Just found and read that thread... lots of good stuff in there...

[BBGTR]

BBGTR: Yeah not aiming for 'cheap' but want to keep it reasonable... when talking suspension the sky's the limit it seems... if your ever in my area perhaps I could get a ride in your beast?

I don't drive it much on the street, but if you are ever at a Track day I'll take you for a spin if there are passenger sessions.