Re-bushing R32 Front End

[Dantay]

Hey all,

My upper control arm bushes are stuffed, caused me to wear out an expensive set of tyres in about 6-7 thousand K's (really bad camber wear on the outside, the inside of the tyre look pretty new). the local import garage quoted me 1400 to re-bush and told me my stub axle had a stuffed uni-joint... I was bullshitted yeah?

so I've decided to do the work myself, the current upper control arm itself should be fine, but I just want to double check my plans with some more experienced folk to make sure I'm not wasteing my cash on unneeded or incorrect parts.

I'm planning on rebushing the upper control arm with this set from uniqueautoparts.com; Clicky bush's inplace image

I've also noticed that my castor rod inner bush has gone soft from contact with engine oil, have been looking around and have seen images that look like what I'm after but the part is a called a "radius rod" bush is this the same as the castor rod bush?

cheers

Dan

[Duncan]

yep that is the whiteline upper control arm kit. only the outer end is adjustable so if you need to adjust camber more than 1o you will need to buy 2 camber kits.

and yes radius rod = castor rod. you should buy adjustable bush for that as well.

the upper arm bushes are a bit of a pain to remove, you may not want to try it yourself unless you are sure you know what you are doing

[R32Abuser]

The bushes require press fitting into the upper arms. I forgot exactly what rating the press needs to be (10T??) but best to ask Sydneykid about that as he is the guru as far as Suspension, and whiteline kits.

Cheers

David

Edited July 26, 2009 by R32Abuser

[djr81]

The bushes require press fitting into the upper arms. I forgot exactly what rating the press needs to be (10T??) but best to ask Sydneykid about that as he is the guru as far as Suspension, and whiteline kits.

Cheers

David

The old Nissan ones need pressing to get out. The new (whiteline) ones if that is what you are using don't need a press.

[Dantay]

oh yeah should have mentioned I have a 110 tonne press at home : )

cheers

[MrStabby]

Some guys find that even two sets of adjustable bushes in the upper arm arent enough (depends on height and how much camber you want), so they've used replacement arms.

re; stub axle, IIRC there's a ball joint at the bottom and a kingpin in the middle. If the kingpin's loose you might be able to get away with just tightening it up again.

[Sydneykid]

Lower control arm inner bushes are also a good idea on R32GTST's, I very rarely see one these days that doesn't need them badly.

Cheers

Gary

[_Ryan_]

Lower control arm inner bushes are also a good idea on R32GTST's, I very rarely see one these days that doesn't need them badly.

Cheers

Gary

Photo/part number? and do you still reccomend the adjustable upper bushes or an arm these days?

[Sydneykid]

Photo/part number? and do you still reccomend the adjustable upper bushes or an arm these days?

I have been using bushes again for some time, the original Whiteline Flat Out or the Whilteine Plus (nee Noltec). As far as I am aware no one is making the original Noltec replacement, bushed upper arm. I would never use spherical bearings anywhere in a road car, so that rules out all of the other aftermarket designs. The spherical bearing fauilure rate in R32's is huge due to the convoluted angles the upper control arm moves through.

Cheers

Gary

[_Ryan_]

I have been using bushes again for some time, the original Whiteline Flat Out or the Whilteine Plus (nee Noltec). As far as I am aware no one is making the original Noltec replacement, bushed upper arm. I would never use spherical bearings anywhere in a road car, so that rules out all of the other aftermarket designs. The spherical bearing fauilure rate in R32's is huge due to the convoluted angles the upper control arm moves through.

Cheers

Gary

Is there any difference between the two products? flatout/PLUS

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_detail...t_number=KCA336

http://www.whiteline.com.au/Plus/pdf/WHITE...L_CATALOGUE.pdf

My whiteline stuff has been fine in the stagea, needs relubing now though!

[Sydneykid]

Is there any difference between the two products? flatout/PLUS

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_detail...t_number=KCA336

http://www.whiteline.com.au/Plus/pdf/WHITE...L_CATALOGUE.pdf

My whiteline stuff has been fine in the stagea, needs relubing now though!

Whiteline Flat Out = the original Whiteline range, some of which I have designed over the years

Whiteline Plus = Noltec designs.

There are some part numbers which are better in Whiteline Flat Out and some in Whiteline Plus. I tend to use the Whiteline Plus part numbers when I need on car adjustment (eg; front caster and rear camber), they cost a bit more but it pays for itself in the ease of adjustment (ie; lower wheel lalignment costs). Plus there is no front camber kit for R32's in the Whiteline Plus range.

I do also use some Nolathane part numbers and very rarely Superpro.

All polyurethane bushes need servicing, bit of grease once or twice a year.

Cheers

Gary

[hossboss]

Hi there... Now I'm only new when it comes to fiddling with suspension, and have also been informed that replacing the lower inner control arm bushes is a good idea on my 1990 R32 GT-R. Call me stoopid, but I'm just not 100% sure which ones would be the best for my street driven application? Cost is also a factor for me, so I'll be doing the job myself if at all possible - do I need a press for this to either remove or install the bushes?

Cheers, Quentin

[skylinecouple]

Presses are cheap these days thanks to China. Get yourself one and you will be amazed at what a difference new suspension bushes make to your car. I will never forget the first time I replaced the rears with the Whiteline adjusting bushes and the front castor and camber bushes with same, sooooo much tighter and steered so much better. Then after the pineapple bushes in the squat position another level was reached. My goal now is to do all the bushes in urethane or Nismo rubber.

[hossboss]

So I'll require a press to be able to change most bushes over? How many tonne pressure would you reckon?

[Sydneykid]

So I'll require a press to be able to change most bushes over? How many tonne pressure would you reckon?

I've never had a problem using a 10 tonne home garage style.

Cheers

Gary

[hossboss]

I've never had a problem using a 10 tonne home garage style.

Cheers

Gary

Thanks Gary, think I'll be investing in one then. I intend on doing more of this in the future, so it can't hurt. Can you recommend a brand/type of lower control bushes for an R32 GT-R? I've had a look around but just can't find the reliable info I'm after.

[Duncan]

rear LCA bushes are available from whiteline/superpro etc. There are no bushes in the front LCA just 2 ball joints

[cazman]

rear LCA bushes are available from whiteline/superpro etc. There are no bushes in the front LCA just 2 ball joints

Only in a GTR

[cazman]

rear LCA bushes are available from whiteline/superpro etc. There are no bushes in the front LCA just 2 ball joints

Only in a GTR

[hossboss]

Ah ball joints. Cool, no need to replace them then... Just a re-grease I suppose.