R32

[ako299]

got my r32 dynoed today at powertune...

rb20det

stock internals

stock injectors

stock turbo

fmic

3"exhaust/dump

pod

walbro 500hp fuel pump

stainless manifold (leakin badly needs replacment)

apexi safc controller

drift bov

run on 12psi.. made 172rwkw in 41 degree out side heat!!!

was happy

have rb25 turbo and gtr injectors on there way, will put on once get manifold fixed or replaced aftermarket plugs and coil packs and then retuned!!

[talky]

stock manifold ftw

[R31Nismoid]

170rwkw on the factory RB20 turbo and a leaky manifold... ?

I must admit i have seen more inflated results.

But that result is surely coming a close 2nd or 3rd.

[chalky]

dont these motors usually come stock with 174kw?

[Kwyjibo]

At the wheels.

For reference on a very safe tune with an HKS2530, fuel pump, injectors, AFM etc on a relatively good condition RB20 at 14psi bleeding down to 12 I got 175kw-180kw on a 33c degree day. Pulled 195kw at 16psi with massive misfires due to coils.

Could be a freak engine but its hard to imagine getting that much power out of a standard turbo.

Edited November 20, 2009 by Kwyjibo

[hypergear]

Thats too hot man. you won't get a very good reading at a 41 degrees day. Try again at a 15~20 degrees day you will see lot better power.

[ako299]

hey guys as people think im inflating the results i will show u the dyno sheet... car has 92tho on the clock.. will put dyno sheet and pik of car up within minutes

[ako299]

there u go guys... will take piks of the turbo on my car im tellin u its stock the guys tuned it pretty hard advanced the timing a touch etc.. made 171.1kw as you can c

[R31Nismoid]

Mate - those figures are wrong.

Have a look @ the IT temp is -71 (IT stands for Intake Temp Sensor)

They have a broken temp sensor, how can you be in -71 degree's on a 24 degree day?

Your coolant would be frozen solid - like i said mate, they have botched your runs, there is no possible way to make 170rwkw from a factory RB20 Turbo on 12psi

I suggest you find another tuner, if they can't even maintain or setup their equipment correctly, goodness knows what the tuning is like.

[ako299]

it was on a 41 degree day?air temp inside the shop and dyno room with the fan going would of been lower...

im not sayn u are wrong but i have a friend with the almost the same mods and he gets his car tuned at a different place and it makes 166rwkw with stock turbo???? my boost controller is set to 14.4psi on hi boost but has bad boost drop to 12 thats y i said on 12psi??? i have been told they were a good tuner

[R31Nismoid]

If it was 41 degree's outside then that is even worse champ.

The dyno sheet AT:24 (Ambient Temp) says 24 degree's was the temp during your tune/runs etc etc.

Which is virtually 20 degree's off, not a good thing at all, quite signifigant in terms of accuracy.

I say this because if they can't get simple weather corrections/sensors working, i would be dubious of other things like AFR's being correct (ie the sensor being poorly calibrated/broken like the other ones clearly are)

That then has follow on impacts to the tune and at worst - your motor.

[ako299]

they didnt put a thermometer on it so the intake temp wouldn be right.. i dunno then coz my mate also has one with 166rwkw and has drove mine and says goes better than his... pretty sure if u look at the otha 32s on here u will c some with more power with the stock turbo..

[R31Nismoid]

Mate you need to calibrate the dyno if you are ever going to hope to have meaningful results for everything from the power to the AFR's

Plenty of stock turbo results to be seen here:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Rb....html&st=20

Norm is 145-160 give/take for 12-14psi.

130-140rwkw for 10-11psi

Normal temps (22-26) - Let alone on a 40 degree day.

It seems you don't really understand fully how a dyno works...

I've told you that the dyno they are using is not correctly setup at all, and this could easily result in a a poor tune and/or your motor death or serious damage over time.

So wether you choose to take what i've said seriously, or just don't care about your car/motor, is totally upto you.

I've seen plenty of people dudded by poor work over the years and it has cost them plenty of money to get it fixed down the track.

[ako299]

Mate you need to calibrate the dyno if you are ever going to hope to have meaningful results for everything from the power to the AFR's

Plenty of stock turbo results to be seen here:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Rb....html&st=20

Norm is 145-160 give/take for 12-14psi.

130-140rwkw for 10-11psi

Normal temps (22-26) - Let alone on a 40 degree day.

It seems you don't really understand fully how a dyno works...

I've told you that the dyno they are using is not correctly setup at all, and this could easily result in a a poor tune and/or your motor death or serious damage over time.

So wether you choose to take what i've said seriously, or just don't care about your car/motor, is totally upto you.

I've seen plenty of people dudded by poor work over the years and it has cost them plenty of money to get it fixed down the track.

as i said it must be possible as i looked in the link and only looked at a few and spotted one 170rwkw on 1 bar boost stock turbo???

1990 R32 75000Kms

RB20DET Stock Internals

Stock Turbo

FMIC

POD

3" TRust exhaust

EBC

BP Ultimate

170.2rwkw @ 1 Bar Boost

[Rowdyr32]

Agree with Ash. Wouldn't be pulling myself over those results. Obviously a dodgy maintained, high reading dyno to keep customers like you happy who don't understand the basics behind how dyno's work and calculate the data.

People comparing chassis dyno results are only kidding themselves. To many variables.

[Beer Baron]

lol -71 degrees Intake temp. your fuel would be freezing in the inlet...

you need to understand the dyno software takes into account ambient temp (AT) and intake temp (IT) and corrects the power figure accordingly. withh figures like those who knows what kind of power figure correction it would be applying. but I can tell you now it's very, very unlikely that your 32 GTST is making 170rwkw @ 12.5psi. just as unlikely as it has -71C intake temp...

[astrotristan]

upsetting to see this mate, ive always heard good things about powertune

maybe you should take on the info richard and ash are saying and give them a call and ask some questions, and try to get some answers and hopefully a re-tune/refund/etc..

also, keep your eye out for an rb25 turbo, a nice bang for buck upgrade for the rb20

[ako299]

yeh i have rb25 turbo and gtr injectors on there way... maybe they f*kd up.. ive seen a few otha ones making like 180kw + with stock turbo so i dunno... yeh powertune is supossed to be great

[astrotristan]

...like i said mate, they have botched your runs, there is no possible way to make 170rwkw from a factory RB20 Turbo on 12psi

yeh i have rb25 turbo and gtr injectors on there way... maybe they f*kd up.. ive seen a few otha ones making like 180kw + with stock turbo so i dunno... yeh powertune is supossed to be great

i think they f**ked up man, ash knows his shit

call them

[bozodos]

yeah I dunno about this bloke but I have seen an RB20 silvertop on an A31 unopened with an Impul ECU, East Bear front mount GT-R cooler kit, 3" zorst no cat or mufflers and a R34 turbo pull 170 rwkw, the car's track performance was able to speak for itself (ie was able to cane a stock R34 GT-T, and give my old 160rwkw VN SS a hiding lol; I admit there would be a weight advantage since this A31 weighs 1200kg lol)