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but this sounds exactly like comparing the r33 gtst to an r33gtr, stock for stock there isnt a whole lot of differnce accelerating in the dry, wet is the gtr's main advantage, same with gti and r32,

Have you tried to drive a gti fast compared to an r32..... there is a world of diffence just like compaing the gtst with a gtr, its not all about how fast they go in a straight line if you know what i mean. And in the wet the r32 absolutely slaughters the gti, it is much safer, it is glued to the road ect.... if you can afford it and you like it get the r32

Whilst I agree with what you're saying about the R32 being quicker in the wet, the main issue with the R32 is its engine. It's a pretty heavy donk in a small body- the GTI is much more chuckable. About the safety of the AWD, the GTI's esp is a bloody good system.

Flame me for this, but I'd buy a R32 solely cause its not FWD. Which is why I love the V6 Clio that doesn't get sold here.... Rear engine, rear drive, do like.

lesson 1: fwd pwns all

lesson 2: rare rwd clios pwn their drivers

+1 GTI > R32

that is all

If you're buying the R32 as your ONLY car then I'd say get it. If it's gonna be your daily and you're gonna have a skyline or something to get your kicks out of, then get a GTI.

Looks like I'm going for a GTI manual now, seems like the better option after abit of deliberation. Just wondering where to look up ECu reflashes etc. whats the best one on the market?

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