R32 Gtr

[FineLine]

while we're on the subject of gtr's at Bathurst.

During my sojourn to wakefield park a couple of weeks back I took time out to drive across to bathurst and pay homage to the mountain. Did 3 laps in the mighty patrols royce and probably broke some sort of record. {slowest ever lap}

I went to the museum Joke museum come souvinir shop to see if i could find any memorabilia pertaining to the gtr glory days. Not one item, no posters, No models, no references of any sort to the thrashings handed to them by Richards, Skaife and co.

The only reference I could find to a skyline in the whole joint was in a stand containing little parking notifications like.

Huindai parking only

Kia parking only

Land rover parking only

skyline parking only.

Boy do they ever hold a grudge down those parts.

[Marlin]

My apologies Turbosoftroader, you appear to have a reasonable conversation going here.

I had become jaded reading many of your other posts in other threads, and subconsciously expected more of the same.

[R31Nismoid]

lol it was the fuel pressure thread wasn't it?

[Marlin]

lol it was the fuel pressure thread wasn't it?

That was a standout, amongst some worthy others

[djr81]

The R32s did not run ceramic turbos. Nissan did a run of 800 GTRs to homologate things like turbos etc. They were plain bearing steel wheeled turbos. You see them floating around from time to time and referred to, funnily enough as Grp A turbos. Doubt they are original items bu probably the same spec turbo.

When Stev Richards returned from being a test and development driver in the UK he ran the Primera run bay Garry Rogers, i believe it was the old Matt Neal Team Dynamics chassis. Though may have been a facoty car from the uK?!?!

Sorry Troy I wasn't trying to suggest they did. The homologation R32 GT-R's (aka Nismo version) had steel turbos. Ages ago I read an article in I think HPI (Maybe Zoom before it got boring) where they published a compressor map of the Group A turbo. Whether or not this was what was on Freddo's cars is a different issue as I thought Group A turbo construction other than meeting some relevent dimensions was a "free" area.

I was just trying to line up the claimed Group A cars horsepower number with an 89 shitter R32 still running ceramic turbos. Also I think there were some ex Gibson cams doing the rounds on SAU some time back. The lift/duration numbers were pretty big.

Yeah Gary Rogers ran all sorts of 2 litre nonsense. An Alfa, the Nissan. Nothing much else comes to mind but there may have been a third make.

Also fwiw I think the sprint engines ran stock rods & the endurance versions ran Carillo's. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

[StealthX]

What the feck??

What on earth is wrong with this topic (or fuel pressure question either for that matter)?

They were both honest, (IMO) intelligent questions!

Sorry I havn't been working with engine tuning for 30 years and know all there is to know, shit, I'm 19. lol

Edited May 5, 2010 by turbo x-trail

[Jetwreck]

Certainly as Craig said above with his dyno results... if it was indeed fulltime 4WD as we kinda suspect, then 315awkw would be very close to 600hp as opposed to 480hp!

Actually... Craig is yours with or "without" the restrictors?

Problem with our car at the moment as we cannot get it to run more than 1bar ATM. Dad and I haven't had enough playtime with the car yet to find the problem as we only really got it three weeks before PI. From memory the boost was sorted with the Mclaren BOV set at 1.4Bar for the 92 season....previously the boost was restricted to 1.7Bar.....so 650hp would easily achieved....but I could be wrong!

I think the restrictors if they are there would limit it to 1.7Bar....will let you know when I know.

[N1GTR]

while we're on the subject of gtr's at Bathurst.

During my sojourn to wakefield park a couple of weeks back I took time out to drive across to bathurst and pay homage to the mountain. Did 3 laps in the mighty patrols royce and probably broke some sort of record. {slowest ever lap}

I went to the museum Joke museum come souvinir shop to see if i could find any memorabilia pertaining to the gtr glory days. Not one item, no posters, No models, no references of any sort to the thrashings handed to them by Richards, Skaife and co.

The only reference I could find to a skyline in the whole joint was in a stand containing little parking notifications like.

Huindai parking only

Kia parking only

Land rover parking only

skyline parking only.

Boy do they ever hold a grudge down those parts.

Yeah no items like that, but there is a nice looking record engraved on the side of the entry gate

[R31Nismoid]

What the feck??

What on earth is wrong with this topic (or fuel pressure question either for that matter)?

They were both honest, (IMO) intelligent questions!

Sorry I havn't been working with engine tuning for 30 years and know all there is to know, shit, I'm 19. lol

We are just stirring ya - relax

Problem with our car at the moment as we cannot get it to run more than 1bar ATM. Dad and I haven't had enough playtime with the car yet to find the problem as we only really got it three weeks before PI. From memory the boost was sorted with the Mclaren BOV set at 1.4Bar for the 92 season....previously the boost was restricted to 1.7Bar.....so 650hp would easily achieved....but I could be wrong!

I think the restrictors if they are there would limit it to 1.7Bar....will let you know when I know.

Full time 4WD for that car ye? (when AWD is engaged?)

*if* so 315awkw was @ 1bar... jesus. So @ the restricted 1.4bar (and if fulltime AWD) it would be 600hp or so close it wouldn't matter. 650 @ 1.7 i think is convervative

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

I had a pair of the RS581's/N1 Group A (rebuilt by garret)on the wagon. Along with supporting engine and fuel system mods i got 373rwkw which is where the squirters ran out of squirt.

Cam, concrete mang, its what all the cool kids are doing.

[StealthX]

We are just stirring ya - relax tongue.gif

lol ok

I could be forgiven for thinking otherwsie! I've had soo much shit pegged at me because of this f**king car.

Even today, driving back from the shops, a bogan guy in a VS SS commonwhore gave me shit calling it my mums car, the gayest thing on the road, are you a c0ck muncher (out the window at me). NICE was to be thanked for all your hard work lol HE HAD A VS FFS!

Edited May 5, 2010 by turbo x-trail

[Jetwreck]

Full time 4WD for that car ye? (when AWD is engaged?)

*if* so 315awkw was @ 1bar... jesus. So @ the restricted 1.4bar (and if fulltime AWD) it would be 600hp or so close it wouldn't matter. 650 @ 1.7 i think is convervative

OK...from what I have been told.....and I have no idea how we will ever really work out the exact % breakup as GMS changed it from track to track.

0: Was for launch and only engaged the front wheels at about approx. 60km/h.....we are estimating the drive to the front to be about 10-15% split

1: As tyre depletion started this was dialled in and was about 15-25% split

2: Probably the first of the wet wether settings and is approx 25-35% split

3: Full wet 40-50% split

These are only good guess's atm. What I can tell you is the car was much better behaved(e.g less understeer) at the 0 setting at PI. Dad set his fastest time of the weekend in 0.

650hp.....I think they sand bagged that figure as well.....I am actually starting to believe that they worked on getting more torque things....I have driven a couple of pretty high hp'd RB26's now and none(i mean none) develop the low down grunt these motors deliver out of a corner.

[R31Nismoid]

So when it was dyno'd what was it on?

0,1,2,3?

Either way that sounds reasonable about the splits etc. Would make logical sense.

[Jetwreck]

lol ok

I've had soo much shit pegged at me because of this f**king car.

lol....at least it's not an M35 Volvo.....I'm almost at the stage of kicking the next smartarse in the shin's (I cannot fight for shit ) that say's "I thought it was a Volvo".

Edited May 5, 2010 by Jetwreck

[Jetwreck]

So when it was dyno'd what was it on?

0,1,2,3?

lol.......probably 1...lol!.....damn good question though

[R31Nismoid]

I think perhaps a test in all 4 modes as well, see if there is any variation... theory says there shouldn't if it's not ATTESSA based anymore.

[Boof]

OK...from what I have been told.....and I have no idea how we will ever really work out the exact % breakup as GMS changed it from track to track.

0: Was for launch and only engaged the front wheels at about approx. 60km/h.....we are estimating the drive to the front to be about 10-15% split

1: As tyre depletion started this was dialled in and was about 15-25% split

2: Probably the first of the wet wether settings and is approx 25-35% split

3: Full wet 40-50% split

These are only good guess's atm. What I can tell you is the car was much better behaved(e.g less understeer) at the 0 setting at PI. Dad set his fastest time of the weekend in 0.

650hp.....I think they sand bagged that figure as well.....I am actually starting to believe that they worked on getting more torque things....I have driven a couple of pretty high hp'd RB26's now and none(i mean none) develop the low down grunt these motors deliver out of a corner.

I remember reading one of the zoom articles on either the R32 GTR or the actual interview they did with Fred himself that he was more interested in getting torque out of the engines then outright revs and or horsepower...Using the AWD to the cars advantage with massive torque would be the way to go