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sorry 2km/hr then.... same diff.... hardly being dangerous either way

Dangerous? You can't deny that it is more dangerous than 2km/h less.

We need to remember that the speed limits are chosen with the lowest common denominator in mind, ie the worst foreseeable driver, in the worst foreseeable car, driving in the worst foreseeable conditions.

If anyone feels uncomfortable about being caught for breaking the law, then they should avoid breaking the law :)

So I started this thread to warn people where these cameras are because there are new ones comming up every day and there is minimal signage, and it has turned into a "don't speed" rant and some idea that 2km/hr over is not bookable???? It is currently bookable but they are callobrated to 3km/hr over the limmit for the time being, do 2km/hr over the limmit past these cameras after August and we will see how long you guys keep your licence for....

FYI 2km/hr over the limmit by a callobrated machine in NSW is going to be a bookable offence, point to point has been using 2km/hr as there minimum guide for well over 3 months now. The reasoning behind it is if there is a doubt from the machine that they need to give a buffer zone for faulty readings, then they are implying the speeds caught by these cameras are not accurate and therefore can not be used. This is comming from the mouths of one of the head honcho's in the NSW RTA of which I am on first name speaking terms with.

Every one of us goes a few km's over the limmit with or without knowing, past cameras or not, if you are not aware of the cameras and your just cruising at the limmit and just happen to creep over the limmit past a place you didnt know was a safty camera then your rooted right?

I'm not sure if some of you guys have noticed the safety cameras with their single tiny sign that blends in with other signs, there is no more 3 sign warnings with this type of camera so to say "don't speed" is pretty stupid, if you know the camera is there then you definately won't be doing near the speed limit let alone speeding.

I don't think there is any need for the smart ass "don't speed" comments then, when I go past a camera I make sure i'm doing about 5km/h under the limmit just to make sure because it's not worth a fine through a bump on the road that knocks my foot down the tiniest amount to push me over the limmit or incase the camera is faulty and mistakes 60km/hr for a higher speed, or even the accuracy of our speedos. If you don't notice the camera is there that tiny buffer zone is your only chance, and that buffer zone is about to get smaller.

Sure we shouldn't speed (even 1km over the limmit), but this isn't about purposely speeding, this is about cruising at the limmit asif nothing is wrong and not noticing a safety camera and you happen to just coast past a camera a few km's over the limmit, or from years or even decades of doing the Yellow light dash? Isn't it better to know about the camera now on this thread rather than getting a fine in the mail or possibly having an accident from speeding through a safety camera? a fine is too late if you've already had the accident isn't it?

^^^ I suppose Tom, that if all the above is true (and I have no reason to doubt it), a car owner needs to accept responsibility that the rolling diameter of his rim/tyre combo (or more correctly the tyre rolling circumference) should NOT carry an overage - otherwise the speedo will UNDERESTIMATE the actual speed.

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/50423/nsw...-to-570-million

New cameras being introduced next month.... where is the guy who thinks the government will not spend in upgradeing their equipment when it comes to revenue raising? If I were you i'd be selling my radar detector if I were you as it will now be useless, and with a new order of speeding equipment comes a new range of detector detectors.

Atleast they are putting more money into roads that we desperately need and giving the cops a small pay rise

To bring this thread slightly further adrift, I do wish they would fix up the roads....especially parramatta road lol

You're from Melb. and you noticed?

We try and keep that thoroughfare a secret. :thumbsup:

sydney by far has the worst roads compared to other capital cities in OZ (but i haven't been to darwin).

I thought Melb/Adelaid were best

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