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I would like to ask some questions regarding the Vipec ecu. There is an unit installed in my car already and I've recently upgraded all turbo related items, fairly run of the mill centering around the GT2530s and other necessary supporting mods.

However, I've just been told that it will take another two days to tune even after they've spent 1 day on it. It doesn't make much sense to me that it would be this time consuming on such a tame setup. My understanding from what the workshop owner said was that it's too hard for them to tune it, ie. something about 5d maps and having to guess boost level, change one parameter, then needs to change another parameter because it has been changed automatically etc... makes fu*k all sense to me. The worst thing is, this is at probably one of the most reputable workshop in WA.

The thing is, it would be ok if it's like this the first time. My plans with the car is to learn the car at this level, then add e85, then when the engine dies do the rb30... So I asked how it would take for the next time I need to tune the car, and he said pbly another 3 days... and it would not be as good as a 4 hour job with a power fc.

My question is, what was it like for you? I am aware that there is a lot more going on in other people's car so it would be more time consuming? What do you guys suggest in this situation? Or do I just bite the bullet and change to the power fc setup (effectively downgrading the ecu)? :banana:

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it does not take 3 days to tune. But you need to give the guy the benifit of the doubt, he wants to take time with your car and get it right, i would prefer someone take their time with the job then do it quickly and possibly miss something that could cause you problems later on.

tuning 4d and 5d maps is a bit of a pain in the ass but its not rocket science, I think the guy just wants to tune the car once so you will be happy with it and you don't need to keep comming back for touch up's or little issues here and there that need to be tweaked.

just ride it out and see how it goes.

Cheers mate, I'll see how it goes. The owner of the workshop has been bagging the crap out of it because its got too many functions. Ironic thing is, I need some of those functions as I'll turn the car into a full track car in the next few years. bleh, set back after set back..

it does not take 3 days to tune. But you need to give the guy the benifit of the doubt, he wants to take time with your car and get it right, i would prefer someone take their time with the job then do it quickly and possibly miss something that could cause you problems later on.

tuning 4d and 5d maps is a bit of a pain in the ass but its not rocket science, I think the guy just wants to tune the car once so you will be happy with it and you don't need to keep comming back for touch up's or little issues here and there that need to be tweaked.

just ride it out and see how it goes.

Cheers mate, I'll see how it goes. The owner of the workshop has been bagging the crap out of it because its got too many functions. Ironic thing is, I need some of those functions as I'll turn the car into a full track car in the next few years. bleh, set back after set back..

let me guess he is a microtech dealer :banana:

As the vipec is no different than any other decent ecu feature wise his comments are a bit surprising really....

But other than that it is better they are thorough than slap happy, more time the better.

Lol, I'll give the the tuner the benefit of the doubt as he is considered the best we have here in WA.

In addition to this, the owner kept on pressuring me not to install the accusump telling me there is no place to put it (reasons like it would be the lowest point of the car etc) and there would be absolutely no benefit in fitting it.. I went in to the workshop, tell him to put the hoist up, grab the canister and a long straight ruler and put it straight into a position just slightly forward of the radiator and poooft, the lowest point of the car is the sub frame.. This is before the abflug front diffusor is to be fitted and we all know that lowers the front by about an inch and a half... So I said, just fab some brackets and I'll install it myself which isn't out of my league, I just don't have the tools to fab those brackets and insurance is paying for most of the fitting at this stage.

let me guess he is a microtech dealer :banana:

The vipec is no different than any other decent ecu feature wise really....

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Lol, I'll give the the tuner the benefit of the doubt as he is considered the best we have here in WA.

quick tip, i wouldnt be hanging shit (especially online) on a company if they have your car..... kinda like shooting yourself in the foot.

That's where the previous owner had his tuning done by glen, and they did the job I mentioned before... vaccum line shared for fuel reg and boost solenoid.. I can't believe they let the car out of the shop..

Autoworx how has extra Tuner options so if your not keen on Glen let them know.

considering the software is very autronic like... i find it hard to believe its 3 days to tune. unless he wants 3 goes at cold start. and saying that my autronic has ZERO correction for cold start. (big injectors wetting the ports do that just fine..)

not trying to step on any toes here, but 3 days. please... i hope its not going to be a bill for 24hrs@ 300-400hr dyno labour!

But I didn't lie or exaggerate? It happened exactly like that and we have agreed on the mounting position and to disagree on the functionality of the accusump. I am not bagging the work or saying they are shit. If anything, I already said that I would like to see how it goes and is paying for the service..

Are you saying that you would be offended which means your duty of care of the customer's vehicle will drop below professional levels?

quick tip, i wouldnt be hanging shit (especially online) on a company if they have your car..... kinda like shooting yourself in the foot.
Are you saying that you would be offended which means your duty of care of the customer's vehicle will drop below professional levels?

Nah im just saying wait till you get the car back from whoever is doing it before posting anything... what if you get it back and it is killer... best tune ever? everyone who read this thread prior to it being finished thinks that the shop you mentioned is shit and wont take their car there... Not everyone will read your outcome.

If you get it back and your unhappy then let rip.

Also if they saw this thread chances are they are hardly gonna put any effort into it.... :bunny:

That's good. We are on the same page then as I do see your point. btw, maybe you can edit the quoting in your last post and do me a favour so I wouldn't get so shot... :bunny:

Nah im just saying wait till you get the car back from whoever is doing it before posting anything, if they saw this thread chances are they are hardly gonna put any effort into it.... :D
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