Busted Speeding By A Human Radar Highway Patrol

[PJ.]

So I was travelling in a 50 km/h which becomes a 100km/h zone and booted it up to speed just prior to hitting the 100km/h zone, however was doing under 50 in the 50 if it makes sense.

There were two lanes in my direction (I was in the slow lane), two opposing lanes, and a petrol station on that opposite side. A highway patrol car was in the servo (probably buying donuts) and saw myself and another car accelerate up to speed, obviously he heard us because we weren't driving stock cars.

He ran to his car (keep in mind he is 4 big lanes across plus 2 bowsers deep on the opposite side) and pulled us over. Didn't say much, defected the other car I was with and handed me a 20km/h over ticket. I asked if he had us on radar, he said no, he estimated our speed. I maintained the truth in that I wasn't speeding, but that obviously upset him and he said he'd see me in court, ran to the car and got the defect book out.

So he didn't have us on radar, no camera footage and he didn't record the conversation.

Anyone else been in a situation like this?

Edited October 7, 2010 by PJ.

[Yeedogga]

Definitely a matter you should consider getting some advice about.

Give me a call anytime. I would be more than happy to provide you with some advice as to the options

available to you.

0410 828 230

Chris

[UW8NCY]

Each state has its own bullsh%t regulations but i know in NSW the officer in question cant book you for 20 km over.

As you stated there is no radar , video , etc as evidence to suggest you where and in no way shape or form the officer is qualified to

be making such claims , especially when he wasnt in his vehicle travelling behind you to go off his speedometer . Anyway he can book

you for negligent driving if he deemed you were driving in a unsafe manner . You should try fighting the fine if it means you are going to

lose your license but end of the day

the courts will see turbo skyline on the papers and the judge will try and make your life difficult. Get legal advice maybe they can help .

Sorry to hear what happened you would think the police would have something better to do then go across 4 lanes and go out their

way to pull you over . What bad criminals we are modified car owners .

Edited October 7, 2010 by UW8NCY

[oweban]

Sounds like southbound @ Heathcote Caltex? Jesus, that's some jump for him to go across to come after you (if that's the place)

[PJ.]

Thanks Chris, I'll def give you a buzz!

Yes UW8NCY, it would be physically impossible to determine the difference between say 14km/h and 21km/h, obviously the difference between the two speeding categories in the space of a couple of seconds.

So you're sure on them being unable to book me over 20 in NSW? PM me if you like

I will lose my licence if I cop this, but regardless I'd still be fighting this BS!

[MBS206]

PJ yes I have been booked for it before (But yes, I was speeding and did admit to a speed that was below what I was doing, but slightly over the limit) I got booked for what I admitted to.

I since know 2 people who are in the force, very rarely does a police officer pull a car over on a visual estimation alone. Reason being, most of the time, it gets thrown out in court.

Your problem, the court most likely won't throw it out as you're not a grandfather driving a dead standard Camry with a 10+ year clean driving record.

[D_I_F]

There is no way that the cops could actually prove this, He should have known that. The cop cant guestimate the speed based on standing there looking at you and obviously isn't mastered in kinematics.

Take it to court!

[AlexanderWilde]

get some legal advice and take it to court id even say he was trying to bully you and abuse his powers if he ran off to get his yelow book to intimidate you cus you dissagreed with him

I can apreciate a cop that is enforcing the law by stoping crazies on the road but to Guestimate the speed and abuse somone cus they dissagree with your argument is pure BS.

[lookingforboost]

Take it to court man, I have been 3 times 2 for defects and one for speeding, no evidence no record, got thrown out all 3 times

[dont_ask]

I would take that to court because he has no proof you were doing that speed. The court would just chuck it out the door most likely no proof what so ever.

[GTR-N1]

There is no way that the cops could actually prove this, He should have known that. The cop cant guestimate the speed based on standing there looking at you and obviously isn't mastered in kinematics.

Take it to court!

Yes-s-s-s-s. Corinne as usual, is correct.

And you need to emphasise what you said earlier, that your velocity was under 50Km/hr in the 50Km speed zone section.

It helps to add that you do not like having your good driving record besmirched by someone else's error.

[MBS206]

There is no way that the cops could actually prove this, He should have known that. The cop cant guestimate the speed based on standing there looking at you and obviously isn't mastered in kinematics.

Take it to court!

And this is why 99% of police officers won't do it.

Although, as you admit to "giving it a hit" he could do you for street racing the other car if they were doing the same, which is most likely what prompted his attention. (The definition of "race" is fairly broad definition in regards to our Road Rules)

[zebra]

Paul - the problem is that you have admitted doing more than 50km/h before the 100km/h sign, if it were after you would be ok, But even I can tell a car is doing more than 50km/h, so I think your only real option is to accept a lesser speed, maybe 10-15k over at best.

[PJ.]

Zebra, at no point did I admit to speeding, I admitted to booting it up to the speed limit.

He said there was almost enough evidence to get us for racing...

[zebra]

So I was travelling in a 50 km/h which becomes a 100km/h zone and booted it up to speed just prior to hitting the 100km/h zone,

Not trying to be a smart ass, but yeah, you did.

Unless you were tying to say you were doing 20km/h in the 50 zone and accelerated to 50 or less when you crossed the 100km/h sign.

[PJ.]

Sorry dude, didn't take it/mean it that way at all haha

What I meant was, although I booted it prior to the 100 zone, I wasn't doing 50 in the first place so at no time did I technically exceed the limit

[r32-25t]

The conversation you had with the cop will all be on video. The camera is always rolling and actually tapes from 5 seconds before the lights are turned on, so it's all recorded and when the footage is asked to be shown in court I'm sure it will be flicked before you know it

[jawrgy]

scummy cops.....if every highway patrol cop lost their job they would all be unemployed because A) they are too dumb to do anything else B) wont make it past the interview for any other job because the employer will see what true ass bags they r.

My 2 cents (plz dont flame) my opinion on highway patrol.

[zebra]

scummy cops.....if every highway patrol cop lost their job they would all be unemployed because A) they are too dumb to do anything else B) wont make it past the interview for any other job because the employer will see what true ass bags they r.

My 2 cents (plz dont flame) my opinion on highway patrol.

your opinion is shit, one of my best mates is a hwy patrolman and he is the nicest bloke you will ever meet, unless you piss him off.

[PJ.]

I asked if the convo was being recorded and he said no because the pulled over multiple cars at once.