One Speed Camera I Would Actually Support

[craig V8 taffe]

Cameras that can detect tailgaters and seatbelt offenders?? Could governments actually care about saving lives???

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1051172...tbelt-offenders

[GTR-N1]

Looks like the ASSET-Cam will be most constructive Craig.

I wonder about two things...

a) how strongly and vigorously an offender will try to get off a charge and...

b) how accurate the system is and how reliable the calibration will be.

Good find.

[craig V8 taffe]

Looks like the ASSET-Cam will be most constructive Craig.

I wonder about two things...

a) how strongly and vigorously an offender will try to get off a charge and...

b) how accurate the system is and how reliable the calibration will be.

Good find.

I agree - especially when you consider that drivers will need to be able to judge how close they can approach another car without having to worry about getting a ticket.. but I'm guessing that you have to be driving very close/dangerously to be getting a ticket.

[Birds]

Does this mean that the police can be fined when they sit 30cm from your bumper before they pull you over for a "random" inspection to see if your car is dangerously unroadworthy?

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

Should have it detect police that park illegally to get some lunch or whatever..

or those police bikes during peak traffic illegally driving on the highway between cars.. has anyone else (in sth east qld) noticed how many of them are doing this during peak hour on the M1

[jiffo]

You've got to be joking?

We already have this technology on our 90 stretch to Helltown and yesterday I was in the queue with a front row seat.

We're all crawling along at 70 to 90 so obviously the vehicles start to bunch up. (the Bruce Highway goes from 110 down to 80/90 until 20k's North of Helltown)

Take into account that there are all sorts of cars mixed in with semis of all descriptions, hills, grey nomads so the acceleration/deceleration rates are varied.

Next thing one of these electronic marvels lights up and you guessed it, someone up front panics and touches his brakes.

Nose to tail accidents were narrowly averted but it was a fine dry day so we continued on.

2K's down the road the next electronic marvel lights up warning that we're all speeding and fines/demerit points will be ours. No-one is doing anything near 90 yet again on come the stop lights.

Not only is this technology hopelessly inaccurate, it's road user's money spent in the most appalling fashion and all under the guise of road safety.

I say, spend the money on driver education and not this whiz bang electronic crap which BTW incorporates point to point radar just waiting to be phased in.

[TurboDoseBro]

Another Myki anyone?

[Mayuri Krab]

When are they going to implement those speed cameras that detects when a road snail is hogging the right lane on the freeway while driving 20 under the limit?

[Crackfox]

I would still prefer to see actual police enforce all our laws instead of fancy cameras. Why? Police are able to take into account the fact that shit happens in life and there will always be variables and circumstances that can't be taken into account by a computer that takes not much more than a picture and then decides upon 2 outcomes. Black or white, ticket or no ticket.

Ie: What happens when at the last second a perth motorist swerves into my lane, because trying to be a safe driver I have left a small gap between myself and the car infront? Sure, a picture will show that my bumper is right on the other persons tail but whos fault is that?

[mad082]

You've got to be joking?

We already have this technology on our 90 stretch to Helltown and yesterday I was in the queue with a front row seat.

We're all crawling along at 70 to 90 so obviously the vehicles start to bunch up. (the Bruce Highway goes from 110 down to 80/90 until 20k's North of Helltown)

Take into account that there are all sorts of cars mixed in with semis of all descriptions, hills, grey nomads so the acceleration/deceleration rates are varied.

Next thing one of these electronic marvels lights up and you guessed it, someone up front panics and touches his brakes.

Nose to tail accidents were narrowly averted but it was a fine dry day so we continued on.

2K's down the road the next electronic marvel lights up warning that we're all speeding and fines/demerit points will be ours. No-one is doing anything near 90 yet again on come the stop lights.

Not only is this technology hopelessly inaccurate, it's road user's money spent in the most appalling fashion and all under the guise of road safety.

I say, spend the money on driver education and not this whiz bang electronic crap which BTW incorporates point to point radar just waiting to be phased in.

pretty sure those boards at the cooroy turn off and near the amamoor turn off are just pressure sensor triggered and not camera operated, so it is slightly different.

[Beer Baron]

Does this mean that the police can be fined when they sit 30cm from your bumper before they pull you over for a "random" inspection to see if your car is dangerously unroadworthy?

wow, they do that in victoria too. standard practice here if they see something or someone they don't like is:

* quickly and needless accelerate and break speed limit if neccessary to close distance between themselves and their 'suspect'

* commence tailgating 'suspect' at a distance of no more than 1/8th of a bees dick off the 'suspects' rear bumper to try and scare them into doing something dangerous

* continue tailgating till they are satisfied. this means either the 'suspect' has panicked and done something wrong, or sufficient time has passed and they are now bored.

* hit lights and sirens and commence 'random breath test' if no offences have been committed

When are they going to implement those speed cameras that detects when a road snail is hogging the right lane on the freeway while driving 20 under the limit?

Yes, I would love to see that. what is it with people in australia who love to form the rolling blockade? and as you come up behind them they look all offended like you are hooning along. in any other country people just get out of your way for a moment, let you pass and then get on with their lives. in australia prepare to spend 10mins stuck behind someone who wants to drive slower than you do and feels the need to enforce their self imposed speed limit onto you for some reason.

I would still prefer to see actual police enforce all our laws instead of fancy cameras. Why? Police are able to take into account the fact that shit happens in life and there will always be variables and circumstances that can't be taken into account by a computer that takes not much more than a picture and then decides upon 2 outcomes. Black or white, ticket or no ticket.

Ie: What happens when at the last second a perth motorist swerves into my lane, because trying to be a safe driver I have left a small gap between myself and the car infront? Sure, a picture will show that my bumper is right on the other persons tail but whos fault is that?

Agree with both those points. and your example is perfectly valid and happens all the time. as soon as you start leaving appropriate gaps between yourself and the car in front you quickly find yourself going backwards as car after car takes this as an invitation to invade your safe braking zone and get into that space.

I am dead against any of these monitoring systems or car mounted gear. it's all bad and all totally unnecessary. It's impact on the road toll is also highly debatable. just like fixed speed camers which also do nothing to help lower the road toll. good roads, safe cars and education lower the road toll. not fining people for doing 53 in a 50 zone.

[jiffo]

pretty sure those boards at the cooroy turn off and near the amamoor turn off are just pressure sensor triggered and not camera operated, so it is slightly different.

Yes Marc they're so far wrong I wondered if perhaps they were operated by some kiddie back at HQ.

Ridiculously expensive joke really when the whole lot will soon be bypassed.

As for the right lane snails, that's just driver education, or the lack of. Not checking mirrors, all the usual suspects.

Followed the Army down to Matilda yesterday. They were flat out at around 80 and yet sticking to the right hand overtaking lanes. Checked their vehicles were LHD so there's a legitimate reason and you make allowances.

[Birds]

wow, they do that in victoria too. standard practice here if they see something or someone they don't like is:

* quickly and needless accelerate and break speed limit if neccessary to close distance between themselves and their 'suspect'

* commence tailgating 'suspect' at a distance of no more than 1/8th of a bees dick off the 'suspects' rear bumper to try and scare them into doing something dangerous

* continue tailgating till they are satisfied. this means either the 'suspect' has panicked and done something wrong, or sufficient time has passed and they are now bored.

* hit lights and sirens and commence 'random breath test' if no offences have been committed

Almost everytime I've been pulled over, I've had a cop sit on my ass to do it. Even the reasonable cops who haven't fined me. I understand some "drivers" still haven't heard about this milennia old invention we have called reflective surfaces, i.e. mirrors...but for those who do use them, surely a safe couple of metres away would suffice at first. I just don't see the point to enforcing law and breaking it at the same time. If you're going to nab me on something petty like a few km over or the suspicion that my car is unroadworthy then don't do worse shit to try and catch me for it. I'm sure on more than one occasion someone has seen the flashing lights, crapped themselves and instinctively stomped on the brakes. They'll wanna be careful if they ever tailgate me in a car worth less than my shirt.

And I don't accept this "police have been trained with special courses blah blah". Okay, can we make these courses available to the public so I too can drive like a f***wit?

/rant

[Chuey]

Seems good in concept but really I cannot believe that they need to police seatbelts. For me personally I feel naked driving around with no seat belt even in a carpark :S

[mad082]

same

[Harey]

You could brake when coming up to a camera so the person behind u gets a tailgating fine haha