Kando Dynamics Turbo

[Hanaldo]

Serious commitment issues lol.

Ron, why don't you buy one of each, do a few back to backs and settle this debate once and for all? Then you'll definitely get the best option. OR, bolt them all on at the same time and live life in the fast lane!

[ARTZ]

Lol...at the least just get a 900$ hi-flow to keep you amused while you plan bigger things...

[rondofj]

haha keep the ideas coming fellas.. I got 60lb siemens deka injectors artz, this weekend I'm goin to solder up my Z32 plug onto my stock loom with my non-existant soldering skills..

[ARTZ]

Just get a hiflow for now Ron....anything else is gunna be alot of work for not much reward..then if you don't kill yourself with that put a bigger turbo on later

[Manuel Kasko]

SS1PU

/discussion

[nisskid]

that sounds almost threatening, and that just makes you sound silly.

it must have been the part where i made a threat that made it sound threatening. sounds like you've been watching too many hollywood flicks.

my point was the use of the word slander implies some pretty strong shit, and i certainly wasn't slandering anyone.

[nisskid]

yes like i said it is naive to expect good business after giving him Bad/neutral feedback...

as a general rule if I am not happy with services received and wish to leave bad feedback.. I say nothing until I am damn sure that transaction is complete and i have no need to contact them again....

Im not saying its right, its just the way the ebay system is..

If you truely think you are wronged maybe you should contact ebay with your problem and see what they say..I'd be very interested to see what they say..He has afterall offered a warranty and is obliged to honour that regardless of the feedback you give..

are you f**king serious?

so if a buyer receives shitty service, then ebay as always asks for feedback, you give them feedback accurately reflecting your experience with them, that the buyer then should expect to be blackmailed into changing it to something it's not?

[GTScotT]

pretty sure anyone would read 'use your words very carefully' as the beginnings of a threat champ.

perhaps you should 'use your words very carefully'......... OR someone may consider that to be a threat, and may be a sad panda

see what I did there? Diffused the threat, PHEW. wouldn't want to get you cranky, you interwebz nasty things.

[Lithium]

I'm definitely not going to be recommending Kando turbos to anyone after reading the above.

[nisskid]

pretty sure anyone would read 'use your words very carefully' as the beginnings of a threat champ.

perhaps you should 'use your words very carefully'......... OR someone may consider that to be a threat, and may be a sad panda

see what I did there? Diffused the threat, PHEW. wouldn't want to get you cranky, you interwebz nasty things.

lol there was no threat made though? i didn't say "or i'll chop your legs off", the point is you need to be careful about the wording you use, and that's exactly what i said, no more no less, throwing around the word slander implies some pretty shitty stuff.

if you took it as a threat, i'm deeply apologetic, now forgive me or i'll murder you and everyone you love

[nisskid]

I'm definitely not going to be recommending Kando turbos to anyone after reading the above.

each to their own, i'll still recommend their stuff, the turbo feels f**king strong on my car, just with a caution to not need it in a short time frame as it may come on time, it may not (for what ever reason), but don't plan an event based on it rocking up when it should as it could end in tears, and already has for a few mates (i was lucky in the scheme of things)

[GTScotT]

I still support the Kando also.

I got a reply from Eiji Takada himself in the early hours of this morning.

Courteously responded to my email within 1 business day of it being sent, and offered me a further discount from the current ebay 'sale' prices on the items i wanted. Offered to send me the Paypal request straight up so I could pay the invoice and have the items shipped.

Cant say I expected more, it turned out well.

As reference I got roughly the same courtesy from Real Street Performance (US Based) when I odered my cams and springs.

[Chainfire]

In Kando's defence, he supplies a good quality, well performing product, at a third of the price of comparable products. You cannot really expect to also receive grade A service on top of that, especially when dealing via eBay (although, I did when I dealt with him). It's a trade-off, you have to take the good with the bad.

In nisskid's defence, threatening to block simply because of neutral feedback is a bit unprofessional, and I would say poor business practice, he could have discussed it with him first before taking any drastic measures.

Anyway, arguing over this is counter productive, and pointless!

I'm taking my R33 with T67-25G to Allstar on Tuesday, after having done the 1000km run in. Hopefully will see some impressive power figures. Just with 98 unleaded for now...

[ARTZ]

Yes slander is a big word that I quite possibly may have used out of context..

But let's look at another big word "blackmail"..

By not leaving good feedback and then expecting to continue business you are in effect blackmailing him with a threat of bad publicity are you not...

[Lithium]

Maybe they are cheaper in Oz than here? Over here they don't seem much cheaper than plain bearing Precision turbos.

[Manuel Kasko]

/thread

[GTScotT]

Maybe they are cheaper in Oz than here? Over here they don't seem much cheaper than plain bearing Precision turbos.

as reference, a PT JB i can get for about 1000 delivered from the states.

a kando about 600 delivered with the hand picked optionals.

I wouldnt say they are MUCH cheaper than a PT, as the PT are extremely well priced for what they are.... but the Kando is definitely the cheapest option in terms of knowing what your getting. Still a good 400 bucks cheaper and I know its just a MHI/Trust replica, so thats pretty cool.

Garrett prices are outrageous in Aus, and about 1400 from the US with an EXG housing. better value to buy PT or pay a little extra and get an FP HTA model

[SimonR32]

I'm taking my R33 with T67-25G to Allstar on Tuesday, after having done the 1000km run in. Hopefully will see some impressive power figures. Just with 98 unleaded for now...

Just make sure everything is working mint before you go... I think Sean is going to kill me if another car with a Kinugawa turbo comes in for a tune half put together and not working properly.

Actually I need my car tuned as well, might try and blackmail him into doing mine next week

[nisskid]

Yes slander is a big word that I quite possibly may have used out of context..

But let's look at another big word "blackmail"..

By not leaving good feedback and then expecting to continue business you are in effect blackmailing him with a threat of bad publicity are you not...

by not leaving positive feedback, by leaving neutral feedback, i am reflecting my dealings with them accurately. they were not positive nor negative, they were neutral, in my comment i noted that the product was very good. if the service was as described like the product was, then it would have been a positive experience. the idea of the feedback system is to keep dealers in check, keep them honest to their word and make sure future buyers have an accurate idea of the dealer. if someone saw my neutral feedback, they'd instantly see that the product was good, but the delivery was slow, they can make their mind up based on an accurate description of my dealings with them. i have had many good dealings with people on ebay who provide both the product and service as described, they received a positive feedback, it's hardly fair to dealers like this that dealers who don't provide the same level of service receive the same feedback.

that is not blackmailing... threatening to block me unless i lie about my experience with them to not tarnish their feedback system is. actually technically it's probably closer to extortion as blackmail is generally used for monetary value.

[Lithium]

as reference, a PT JB i can get for about 1000 delivered from the states.

a kando about 600 delivered with the hand picked optionals.

Sounds about right, what triggered me to say that was the statement that Kandos are 1/3rd of the price of comparable products and while they are cheaper they are most definitely not 1/3rd. After paying attention for a while I'd feel much more comfortable getting a genuine Borg Warner, Garrett, Precision or Turbonetics turbo and get something long time proven and supported for possibly slightly more outlay.