Ecu - Doing Your Own Tuning?

[SECURITY]

....or get the knock detector and wire it into the vipec. but it is a shame it doesnt use the standard knock sensors, even the emanage ultimate uses them.

[PM-R33]

Yeah I so wished it used the factory knock sensors

But you can wire the KMon into the Vipec.

Are you talking about the Knock Amplifier kit? What's the cost on that?

[JonnoHR31]

Haha i meant just pit the numbers in urself.

Ur right. I have found the same thing with interpolation on the fc so i dont use it anymore

i'm not talking about the interpolate feature in fc edit, i mean the actual ecu's interpolation between cells. if your halfway between 2 cells it interpolates between the 2 to give you a figure halfway between them. does this for both fuel and timing

[Tony de Wonderful]

....or get the knock detector and wire it into the vipec. but it is a shame it doesnt use the standard knock sensors, even the emanage ultimate uses them.

Is it only PowerFC and emanage that use the OEM knock sensors then? Does Link not use them (suspect not if Vipec doesn't)?

I've been told that emanage is crap though and can drift.

[KiwiRS4T]

Power FC doesn't control knock it measures it and you have to control it. The Link (and Vipec, they are the same unit) using a knockblock system can self manage knock..

[Tony de Wonderful]

Ah ok so Power FC has no safeguard then as such. Interesting.

BTW what ECU's still allow the CONSULT port to work? Does Nistune? I think e-manage does etc and other piggybacks but they are not that great from what I hear except f-con gold which is proprietary and you can't tune it yourself?

[DVS JEZ]

i'm not talking about the interpolate feature in fc edit, i mean the actual ecu's interpolation between cells. if your halfway between 2 cells it interpolates between the 2 to give you a figure halfway between them. does this for both fuel and timing

Ahh ok. Now i know what u mean. U must be tuning on to the edge if 1 degree or half a degree is needed

[DVS JEZ]

Ah ok so Power FC has no safeguard then as such. Interesting.

BTW what ECU's still allow the CONSULT port to work? Does Nistune? I think e-manage does etc and other piggybacks but they are not that great from what I hear except f-con gold which is proprietary and you can't tune it yourself?

Itdoesnt have a control safegaurd but it does flash a light on the dash which i think is a very good control telling the driver to back off and check the hand controller

[JonnoHR31]

Ahh ok. Now i know what u mean. U must be tuning on to the edge if 1 degree or half a degree is needed

yer on my car i do, obviously wouldnt on anyone elses tho.

and yes nistune allows you to use the consult port as standard

[Beer Baron]

I actually don't mind emanage for some applications. for the money they are not a bad solution and best bit is of course you keep the stock ECU so there is no excuse for a poorly running car.

but I still think for the budding home tuner the cheapest and easiset way to get into it is a power FC, a wideband and datalogit.

[Char]

november last year, me and my mate drove to just bout every tuner we could find in WA to find a tuner for his Haltech, and no one wanted to touch it! after about 6 places we got refered to a shop who apparantly like working on haltechs. he drove in with a Tune from C-RED with 21psi 400rwhp (gt35r, rb25det,6boost etc) drove out with 325hp on bout 3psi less.

every shop was saying "na let us take out the haltech and install something else"

moral of the story is, haltech = fail investement of $1200

ive heard similiar things about wolf 3d's

[REMANIS]

+1 on the Vipec.

I used to have a Microtech and found that an absolute pain in the ass to try and learn how to tune on. I ended up selling it and buying a Vipec and now I do my own tuning.

The layout of it all and ease of finding settings makes it a pleasure.

Hey are Vipec and Link Same Same?

[PM-R33]

Don't bring that up again. There is a thread dedicated to it.

To answer your question though, yes it is.

[StealthX]

1 vote for EMS stinger 4 from me...

[Don Dada]

but I still think for the budding home tuner the cheapest and easiset way to get into it is a power FC, a wideband and datalogit.

Exactly

It really is easy as the pfc has the base already set up but you must know the basics about tuning and engine parameters to start with

I've had my datalogit only acouple weeks now and have already gotten the wot tune spot on even though i'm still learning little tips and tricks using the software and i am working on the low load/cruize now.....its a beeeze compared to using the hc

And as said before pfc does not pull timing or anything like that when it senses det...but the most important thing is it does detect it !!! this is what sealed the deal for me

Every Tom Dick and Harry has one here so you could get support if needed although some remained tight lipped probably because of fear that you might become the next best tuner but say what, lots or reading and trial and error will get you there

[Tony de Wonderful]

I think I'll probably go Nistune unless a cheap power FC comes up.

I've got a Greddy infometer so it would be useful to still be able to use the Consult port.

[REMANIS]

Don't bring that up again. There is a thread dedicated to it.

To answer your question though, yes it is.

Cheers mate thanks for that!