Non-turbo...disappointing?

[FriniK]

I have no idea what youre complaining about...im runnin around in a 1987 1.6L corolla

although I am around 3/4 the way to getting my skyline

[IOWNU]

My dads let me off the hook now..its been more than 6 months, no fines, no accidents.....sold the r33....and have a GTR 32 on the way......:-)

Hopefully wont loose 2 much cars anymore..

[Bax]

There was a mob who was working NA RB engines in the mid 90s and was getting huge power out of them.

There is no reason why you cant improve the performance of those engines!

True, but with the ease and cost of turbocharging, seems to be the easy way out.

[Driver]

I had to change to a turbo skyline after owning a non turbo

I loved every bit of owning the non turbo, but as that being my first car and not having my licence for very long i just wanted a change, something with more guts and that i can mod and have some fun with

[SS8_Gohan]

My dads let me off the hook now..its been more than 6 months, no fines, no accidents.....sold the r33....and have a GTR 32 on the way......:-)  

Hopefully wont loose 2 much cars anymore..

:uhh: 6 months in a n/a R33 and u'r gonna step to a R32 GTR? i think ur dad has a lot more faith than i prob would.

I was going to buy (yep, me) a R33 GTS-T at 18, but dad said no, so i'm 20 now and currently in the importing process for a R34 GT-T. I can't say i've had any real scares in the 1991 Pulsar 1.6ltr (touch wood) but i think the extra few years of putting around in a little hatch has been pretty valuable. I just make sure i do the simple things, and make them second nature.

Eyes always on the road (like most ppl, have learnt where all the buttons on the radio are)

Check blind spots

If raining, leave a larger gap

Hopefully the 2 or so years i've had the pulsar, and the experienced i've gain will help me with the R34 GT-T. But i think the first order or business will be a driving course (skidpan, etc)

hope u have fun and are careful with the GTR

cheers.

[IOWNU]

Yeah true true....6 months is not a lot....but I did learn 4 about 1year and 11 months on a GTST r33, so really i've had about 2 years and 5 months experience....but only 6 months on my own. SO i think i can handle the power.....although GTR is different to a GTST, but isnt it in a way safer considering its AWD, and better handling?

[SS8_Gohan]

I'm sure u'll find out soon enough if u can handle the power or not.

I would say in a GTST it would be safer to drive in terms of power and handling. A GTR is NOT constant awd, it will only apply power to the front wheels if there is a loss of traction. A GTR is predominantly RWD, therefore quite similar to a GTST the majority of the time, but with significantly more power.

I would think (in theory) a GTST would be safer because if you start to lose it in a GTST you would back off the throttle and hopefully be able to steer out of trouble. If the same happened in a GTR, i would suspect thet best thing to do was to keep the power down, therefore let ATESSA help u by providing power to the front wheels? But in a scray situation the last thing you'd prob be thinking about was to step on the gas.

I haven't even driven a RWD Turbo, so you've got more experience than me. Maybe some of our GTST come GTR owners, or those who have driven both can shed a bit more light on this?

cheers

[IOWNU]

Thanx mate....yeah i'll c if there is any1 whos made the move from GTST to GTR.

[paulr33]

remember when comparing gtst vs gtr drivetrain. if you take corner XYZ (at an intersection say turning right) from standard start and give it some stick you'll hang your nuts out and power slide around it, perfect sideways if done correctly in an r33 with some good tyres.

however if you did the same exercise in a gtr about say 30%-40% through executing the maneuvour when you get wheelspin the attesa system will detect this and apply upto 40% of its torque to the front wheels, so what will happen is just over half way through your power slide / going sideways your front wheels will grip and have 40% more torque, when greater than 0 its a lot. so your wheels will be pointing on say a 45degree angle and suddley they apply power, youll end up in the gutter or over the kerb most likely as you wont expect it to happen. i would have to try it but thats the sorta results i would expect.

or at least a random snakey at the end from the front wheels gripping when unexpected vs gtst doing a perfect slide and resuming control.

[paulr33]

i could be wrong, but here is what i believe would happen with attessa. mid way through iit will snap and dump power to the front, possible resulting in a sudden veer as your wheels are still pointing 45degrees ish

[The_Paladin]

paulr33......if you inserted a bus stop in that diagram you would have had a Mines Datsun

[paulr33]

haha

[slip]

I think youll be fine IF you gain a thourough practical understanding of how the GTR will behave in loss of traction situations. As long as you know the car, and can control it, (and yourself) you'll be fine.

[heartbrkr]

If your on your P's in melbourne your prolly going to exceed the power/weight restriction. Is something like 125kw per tonne. My Gtst rego says 1200 tare (suspect is heaveir), and with 125kw/tonne regulation limits you to 150kw or so.

Everyone trashes their first car, do you really want to experience that in a skyline? Insurance is going to kill you too.

hb/