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Thelen

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SargeRX8 Grand Master

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In my old car I built a little system which required a magnet to be swiped past the dash to enable a relay to let you start the car. Of course if anyone really wanted to start your car they can sit there and go through your wiring and bypass it(they aren't hard at all). But its time. That is the essence to a thief. They don't have much of it and things need to be done in about 2 - 5 minutes. They aren't going to sit at your car for 30mins figuring out your security system.

I like the method above of sitting a old mobile phone with GPS to track its location. Its much cheaper than a GPS alarm system plus the $400 a year monitoring. Even google offer free gps tracking on their android phones so you just have to pick up a cheap $100 android phone, install some apps, enable gps and hardwire a charging system for your phone.

But no matter how much work you put into your GPS system, a thief can obtain from MANY places GPS scramblers and mobile phone signal scramblers which will cost half the price of your alarm system. This topic has been said and done, there is no way to completely secure your car. Just don't park in hot spots.

The best security method for theft is obviously car insurance. If you don't have insurance on your car, you really don't deserve to be driving it. I don't give two shits. Even third party covers theft. I was involved in an accident with a scum bag, international student, with no Australia license and no insurance, not even third party. My fist wants to connect with faces.

If people are concerned of their privacy with the above system, it would not be hard at all to incorporate the system to only be active when the car is switched off. Sure people are going to be seeing WHERE you parked the car but only give access to a trusted team.

You gotta remember a system like this can protect your car BUT in the wrong hands/eyes can identify where your car is parked at any time of day/night....

If one of those guys who works at these car GPS monitoring places knew a Ferrari 599 was equipped with an alarm and parked at x location, he could leak this information to people... Its touchy touchy.

Car insurance, best, proven way to secure your investment/money pit.

SargeRX8 Grand Master

SargeRX8

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Mmmmm yes does look like the best course of action is a working proper alarm and insurance. I still think we can do some sort of community monitoring type thing, but the privacy aspect will be difficult.

As I have said, have it work as a switch. It is not always tracking but only tracking when switched on. I'm keen on this idea and would be happy to help develop a system only for sau users. if I has a development basis at hand I would be willing to develop an application to monitor and log locations but when things start costing me money it would probably result in some sort of a package purchase which could include the gps sensor, installation hardware, support and tracking... Then again there are already tried and tested kits out there. The only difference is the costs could be non profit and exclusive only to club members.

Thelen Rising Star

Thelen

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As I have said, have it work as a switch. It is not always tracking but only tracking when switched on. I'm keen on this idea and would be happy to help develop a system only for sau users. if I has a development basis at hand I would be willing to develop an application to monitor and log locations but when things start costing me money it would probably result in some sort of a package purchase which could include the gps sensor, installation hardware, support and tracking... Then again there are already tried and tested kits out there. The only difference is the costs could be non profit and exclusive only to club members.

yes im more interested in a not-for-profit system than something else. i think we have enough mass to make it possible?

Chris Rogers Grand Master

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I have a trick that does slow them down. they can't 'easily move it if al 4 brakes are on..

as for GPS units - ash has it. I sell one that does an automatic goefence around the car amd will do pretty much whatever you wnat inc self monitored web access but a simple $300 jaming device will slow it down if a pro gets at it.

as for doing 30-50 cars in 2 days - you are FKN dreaming! it takes me 2 days to fully strip and integrate an alarm into one properly. doing that volume would certainly end it disaster.

Thelen Rising Star

Thelen

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lol 2 days? 16 hrs? i can't believe it takes that long. i've stripped an r32 and r33 totally down insides in half a day, so even allowing another half to put it back together :S

anyhoo, as i said i'd think like 5+ guys doing. seems like no sort of standard apart from basic alarm though is worth it, so im guessing the idea is a bit dead.

Carbon 34 Grand Master

Carbon 34

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to do it right it takes a long time, chris is right , some alarms can day takes or even a week if you go totally crazy . Im not kidding a week when you do some custom shite and hide the lot, even nissan wouldnt know it existed by looking into the harness

and the miles of wires would baffle anyone. dont forget deception works well while the crims look at what looks like a alarm is a empty box

multi layered security is best and even a tow truck can't get thru it.

and dont forget home security as well ?

mickey Proficient

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If you want a tracker, rather than a phone you could get something like this...

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/gps-dualband-gsm-realtime-spy-anti-theft-vehicle-tracker-22968

or this...

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/portable-multi-function-gsm-gprs-gps-vehicle-tracker-blue-72822

Unfortunately, they are easily thwarted by this...

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/tg-130b-portable-cellphone-and-gps-l1-signal-jammer-cdma-gsm-dcs-gps-phs-44289

Dealextreme for all your dodgy China gadgets :)

SargeRX8 Grand Master

SargeRX8

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If you want a tracker, rather than a phone you could get something like this...

http://www.dealextre...e-tracker-22968

or this...

http://www.dealextre...cker-blue-72822

Unfortunately, they are easily thwarted by this...

http://www.dealextre...s-gps-phs-44289

Dealextreme for all your dodgy China gadgets :)

Best site ever haha. As I have always said, the scrambler is half the price of the GPS tracker.

Jeriatric Contributor

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^^Block GSM (not including 3G) and GPS tracking signals in 2~10 meter radius

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/tg-130b-portable-cellphone-and-gps-l1-signal-jammer-cdma-gsm-dcs-gps-phs-44289

so if you are using a newer phone on the 3G network it should be fine?

KiwiRS4T Grand Master

KiwiRS4T

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Serious solutions: a well installed well hidden alarm with al the usual triggers and a GPS locating device plus

3 or 4 hidden incar sirens or horns to deafen the thief and

a fogger device like this: http://autowatch.co....rms-fogoff.html

some more extreme solutions:

[warning: bad taste content]

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