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Sunkist Grand Master

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Pretty much right.

Also the ECU controls the gearbox, throttle and accessories, so you can't just ditch it for a standalone without going to a cable throttle like Scotty has tried.

AFAIK the VQ25DET was only used in the NM35, so people aren't in a mad rush to develop piggy backs etc for them.

I'm convinced that Haltech would be a better choice... if it was guaranteed to work. But there are no guarantees, so go with what you know works!

nope.

its speaks with another Ecu that controls the GB lol

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stock intercooler and injectors wont handle 200kw i dont think. especially injectors

I plan to test that injector theory... just as soon as my com cable rolls up! :rant:

Not sure if Scott's is the only proven suction pipe Aaron, Dolphin might disagree, but good luck getting one :P

I saw pics of an HKS replacement for the vertical suction pipe and the rubber bend... Well at least it had HKS stamped on it, but I have only seen it once.

Also, TEPS make a very nice suction pipe but you have to supply them with your car.

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I plan to test that injector theory... just as soon as my com cable rolls up! :rant:

I saw pics of an HKS replacement for the vertical suction pipe and the rubber bend... Well at least it had HKS stamped on it, but I have only seen it once.

Also, TEPS make a very nice suction pipe but you have to supply them with your car.

i thought scott had the com cable?

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Just an FYI on the Haltech....I had the Interceptor......I battled with it for a good six months......in the end I took it off and my car made more power with the stock ECU.

Jus so you know.....even though you have a piggyback(any piggyback) the standard ECU will try to tune around it....and quite often succeed!

There in lies the problem for me. No one wants to touch an Emanage over here, it's like a dirty word but no one has had any real success with anything else. I don't know what to do, if I get the exhaust done I want to make full use of it and at the very least get the mods we discussed before. I'm happy with an extra 50 awkw but nothing less.

He did mention something about the possibility of a cable throttle so perhaps he was planning on bypassing the ecu all together. That sounds like a hell of a lot more work than $2500 worth including the new engine management system though. I wonder if Cihan has some base maps I could purchase and get a tuner over here to start from that platform.

Arrgghhh

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There in lies the problem for me. No one wants to touch an Emanage over here, it's like a dirty word but no one has had any real success with anything else. I don't know what to do, if I get the exhaust done I want to make full use of it and at the very least get the mods we discussed before. I'm happy with an extra 50 awkw but nothing less.

He did mention something about the possibility of a cable throttle so perhaps he was planning on bypassing the ecu all together. That sounds like a hell of a lot more work than $2500 worth including the new engine management system though. I wonder if Cihan has some base maps I could purchase and get a tuner over here to start from that platform.

Arrgghhh

Don't you have an HKS tuner over there?

HKS Fcon iS will do (at least) as much as the eManage Ultimate and can be picked up pretty cheap (have seen them on eBay for $300-350).

Problem is that the ECU will still try to tune around it.

On the plus side, the ECU will also accommodate and self tune for basic mods such as exhaust, runner spacer and suction pipe (although the SP will max out the AFM)

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On the plus side, the ECU will also accommodate and self tune for basic mods such as exhaust, runner spacer and suction pipe (although the SP will max out the AFM)

There is a way around that with good design :whistling: .

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So when are you making them for others?

Haha. I figured if I spent the 50hrs it took me to make it actually working in my business, I could have paid someone to build me something really nice. I dunno, maybe totally rebuilt my engine or a manual gearbox conversion lol.

Happy to release the patent & put up a rough guide for others, but I'm so over it there's no way anyone would want to pay enough to entice me to make another one :wacko: .

Would be a good idea if I made sure I can get it running exactly how I like first. Otherwise this one may be going cheap for someone wanting to install an Emanage....

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is there a way you can setup that extra opening to be adjustable? just in case its too large or something

Anything is possible but there's still limited room in there, and just how much time/effort/money does one want to go to?

In reality it would be easier to just use an interceptor to adjust the voltages (hence AFR's) back to what you want than try to do it mechanically. I'd imagine that would be a fairly coarse sort of adjustment.

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