E85 Storage And Hand Pumps

[NYTSKY]

Around $450 a drum for Sucrogen.

[JonnoHR31]

How much are these 200l drums of fuel? Must be better then pump price buying bulk ect, keen for some 98 ron

around double the price, definately not cheaper but drums is the only way to get e85 in some areas and its the only way to get the race e85

[tk80]

price has just gone up to $550 a drum.

I've spent a heap of $$$ on an engine build and i'm happy to spend the extra dollars to buy sucrogen for a little while to be guaranteed the same octane/quality of fuel every time. in my opinion it's especially important during the testing/tuning phase otherwise it becomes another variable.

I'm sure spending this amount on fuel is going to sh*t me soon, but for now i just put it down to part of the expense of building a big hp motor.

Edited January 22, 2012 by tk80

[R31Nismoid]

in my opinion it's especially important during the testing/tuning phase otherwise it becomes another variable.

And then you'll go back to the normal pump stuff once it's tuned/tested or you talking generally???

Confused

I mean ye the Sucrogen stuff is great, but then so is the price. At least the owner was funny when he got on here and started abusing people. Good for a laugh.

[tk80]

Yes, i can see a time where i'll be buying pump e85. hopefully the consistency will improve as i've heard of a few bad batches from rozelle. Having said that, the tuner has told me as long as the octane is above 105 then the engine will be safe.

[Simon-S14]

pump e85 is not much different, if at all to drum apart from the price... just saying.

have done back to back testing with both fuels. on dynos.. no difference. the ONLY time you may have an issue is if youre tuning e85 to the absolute limit. which you shouldnt be anyway

[SS8_Gohan]

At least the owner was funny when he got on here and started abusing people. Good for a laugh.

ah yes, that douche bag... i think all our cars should have blown up by now or something should have rusted through etc etc *insert scare tactic to justify drum price*...

must go down to United soon to check what E% their E85 is... i'm guessing it'll be around E90 like last time they had it pre-floods - even more powah!

[lilcrash]

Sorry for the off topic, but I'm curious how you all can be happy to pay so much for fuel, like I pay $1.60 a litre for bp 98 octane, you all pay over $2.50 per litre. Is it really worth it?

[Simon-S14]

nah its not! I pay $1.15 for united E85 which performs the same as the rest of the stuff.

if you think that e85 that has been blended with BP98 is better then you're in for a rude shock

[lilcrash]

Oh I thought I read up further that it's $550 for a 200litre drum.

What's your economy like. I get 400-450km from 60litres.

Just had a look and the closest and only e85 servo is a caltex 50 km from home.

Edited January 23, 2012 by lilcrash

[Mick_o]

A lil off topic my car was tuned on caltex eflex just wondering if any of u boys notice a power difference from uniteds e85 and the caltex e85?

[Jap_star]

I change almost weekly and don't notice a difference. Other than caltex starts nicer in the cold

[scotty nm35]

A lil off topic my car was tuned on caltex eflex just wondering if any of u boys notice a power difference from uniteds e85 and the caltex e85?

I have been filling at United for the last 3 tanks, its more expensive at 10c less than unleaded and then I need to put a little 98 in also to drop the ethanol percentage until I get a tune. It definitely smells better though. I will let you know when I get it back on the dyno.

[scotty nm35]

Oh I thought I read up further that it's $550 for a 200litre drum.

What's your economy like. I get 400-450km from 60litres.

Just had a look and the closest and only e85 servo is a caltex 50 km from home.

It could have possibly saved your engine though, at 20c less than unleaded it works out to around the same price as 98 to run in my car.

[SS8_Gohan]

A lil off topic my car was tuned on caltex eflex just wondering if any of u boys notice a power difference from uniteds e85 and the caltex e85?

385rwkw on eflex, 400rwkw on E85

eflex may have been mid 60's though at the time.

that's what i was thinking scotty, get some United and just drop in a little 98 if it's like E90 until i get a touch-up - just bring the laptop with me to get the E% reading

although, the wideband should richen things up to the target AFR's in normal cruising even if it's E90

[Piggaz]

Didn't you get the display Daniel?

[R31Nismoid]

Sorry for the off topic, but I'm curious how you all can be happy to pay so much for fuel, like I pay $1.60 a litre for bp 98 octane, you all pay over $2.50 per litre. Is it really worth it?

Ye sorry you've sorta missed a "in" joke from a few years back.

Basically the owner of Sucrogen got on here being a ripe tawt, saying pump E85 is a waste of time.

So that you should buy "his" stuff as it's "so much better".

I mean no doubt it is, but at almost double the price of from the local bowser... Not really viable for anyone with a car that gets used regularly. Plus you then needed somewhere to store said drums...

Have a read if you want a laugh: Click Me

[lilcrash]

Oh ok then. I haven't got the fuel system to support e95 but I was curious about the added running costs.

[SS8_Gohan]

Didn't you get the display Daniel?

didn't see the need really... did the baseline E85 tune from a drum of Powerplus to get an exact baseline (which it was, bang on E85), did the 98 and that's it. I mean, i'm not going to change anything depending on the E%, Trent has set that all up and i ain't going to touch that. So constantly seeing the E% would be interesting purely from a curiosity point of view, but for me, not worth the $$ especially when i can just plug the laptop in if i really needed to know (which i will when i get some United)

In hind sight, what i should have done and what people should do if setting up flex fuel is to do the 98 tune and a baseline E100 tune. IMO that's obviously going to cover all the variants.

[Piggaz]

I Spose it not hard to do a E100 tune. It would be interesting to see what gains there are to be had by going that high.