Nee-san Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Weighting system for driver penalties like they use in Football, build up too many in one season and you miss races, loss of super-license etc. Driving standards are at an all time low, probably to do with the age of drivers coming through now. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 the finger 2.0 ^? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiQx69Nhtjk on that.Japanese GP: Grosjean wants to move on from Webber shunt "Ever since I came back in Singapore my priority has been to be very cautious at the start, and I was watching Sergio [Perez] on my left to make sure there was no contact with him," said Grosjean."There was quite a big speed difference between me and Mark [Webber] as I came into the first corner which caught me by surprise and we collided. It was a stupid mistake."Mark came to see me after the race and was obviously not happy, but I apologised and we have to move on. We'll sit down and look at things again before the next race to see what we can do to improve these situations."http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103207 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Lotus will delay the return of its double-DRS ''It is probably because we have to focus on some other developments which have higher priority." Although the Mercedes-style double-DRS that is activated by ducts being covered by a moveable wing is banned for 2013, the passive Lotus-style system remains legal - so any development work on its current system could have a benefit for next year. Boullier said the biggest issue the team faced was not the device's legality but whether or not it could get it to operate consistently enough so drivers did not risk losing downforce in high-speed corners. "It is not being legal or illegal - it is about making it work," he said. "We have not retained it here because we do not believe there is enough of a gain in the race." http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103173 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 look at the broom. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berk Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Look at how fast they are, nano is barely out of the car and the crane is in position ready to hook up, the dog line is already attached, some guy is sweeping up and there is a fire extinguisher on stand-by. Compare that to how long it takes to clear a car at Monaco. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nee-san Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Look at how fast they are, nano is barely out of the car and the crane is in position ready to hook up, the dog line is already attached, some guy is sweeping up and there is a fire extinguisher on stand-by. Compare that to how long it takes to clear a car at Monaco. The Monaco marshalls are probably the best in the world dude, think about how much harder it would be to safely removed a smashed car around the street circuit. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 it looks even worse close up... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 The Monaco marshalls are probably the best in the world dude, think about how much harder it would be to safely removed a smashed car around the street circuit. and the fact he crashed in front of a marshal/clean up crew post.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Apparently he let loose. "It was that first lap nutcase again, Grojean"- M.Webber Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrd-hr30 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Good 10 sec stop/go for Grosjean. About time they got tough on him. Should've DISQ though. how is that tough? a stop-go penalty when you're at the back of the field anyway is slap over the wrist with a limp lettuce leaf. Particualrly since its his 27th crash of the year when others get a 10 place grid penalty for their 2nd prang of the season. WTF??? Webber's right, it is embarrasing at that level. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Good to see young Daniel hold off Das Boot for a point, he seems to think that he will stay with the team for next year. Nothing official yet though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 it looks even worse close up... couldn't agree more of all the step noses this is clearly the worst mercedes a close second Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6568861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 As there’s been such huge interest in the 2013 nose, its worth noting the regulations for 2014 have been published by the FIA for some time. As part of the safety programme the FIA will introduce much lower noses. The nose tip must be centered around 185mm and the front bulkhead lowered to 500mm. Also front wings will be narrower, top rear wings will be shallower and there’ll be no beam wing. Here’s a quick representation hooray!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6569089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 an astute observation but it looks like the regs are slowly working back to this Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6569123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6569183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Japanese GP: Lotus must 'control' Romain Grosjean says Red Bull boss Red Bull boss Christian Horner has called on Lotus to get Romain Grosjean 'under control' after his latest opening lap crash. Grosjean hit the back of Mark Webber at Turn 2 on lap one of the Japanese Grand Prix - and was latter slammed as a "first-lap nutcase" by the Australian. Webber subsequently stormed down to the Lotus office unit in the Suzuka paddock to confront Grosjean and vent his anger at what he felt was a totally avoidable incident. Further adding to the criticism of Grosjean, who was banned for the Italian GP for having caused a first lap crash in Belgium, Horner declared it was up to Lotus to intervene and sort its driver out. "Hopefully he will have a good look in the mirror after this incident – or his team need to get him more under control," explained Horner. "He [Grosjean] is capable of doing it, as he is obviously a quick driver, but so many incidents is unacceptable at this level. "He needs to really talk to himself, or the team needs to talk to him, because not only is it dangerous for others, but he has cost himself and his team a colossal amount of points - together with the innocent victims that he has collected en route." Horner said that the biggest concern for Red Bull, and the reason why Webber was so angry, was that Grosjean had not appeared to have learned any lessons from his Monza ban. "I think Mark has every right to express his feelings, and I think that it was just a complete misjudgement [by Grosjean]," he said. "The most important thing when you make a mistake is to learn from it, and I think the most disappointing thing is that it is a repeat incident and proved extremely costly for Mark, as it did for [Lewis] Hamilton and [Fernando] Alonso at Spa, and numerous other victims earlier in the year. "I think the most worrying thing is he doesn't appear to be learning from his mistakes." http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103225 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6569240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I dot mind how the cars look. Sure they are not as great as some past, but you can instantly see the era of car...if they go an dumb the design to look like a GP2 car then I will be disappointed Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6569351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I dot mind how the cars look. Sure they are not as great as some past, but you can instantly see the era of car...if they go an dumb the design to look like a GP2 car then I will be disappointed make a good looking front wing and keep back wing the same but with a flat horizontal top plane so very minimal rear downforce. still give room for sponsors but brings back the need for good mechanical rear grip and brings the drivers with better seat of the pants feel to the top of the field Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/384282-formula-one-2012/page/234/#findComment-6569562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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