R32 Stuart Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Hi all Supersprinters - NSW Here's some PROVISIONAL ONLY UNTIL APPROVED BY CAMS STATE EXECUTIVE changes attached. Have your say - good to see time attack cars included - your thoughts on rules? Type 4 and SV interesting! Please voice your opinion to CAMs good or bad Sport & Club Development Officer [email protected] Cheers Vehicle_Regs_and_Rules_Changes.pdf 2012_Vehicle_Regs_Provisional.pdf Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 What constitutes a "time attack" car? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6159818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Interesting attempt to bring the regs back closer to what their competitors are doing. I still have absolutely no idea why type SV (or now time attack) exist outside the regular 1-4 classes. And they continue to rely on the meaningless rule of "road registered" without requiring "road legal" Andrew, you will be please to know that Time Attack regs say: 2.6.2 Coil over suspension kits are permitted. Hammerhead S13s are unfortunately banned. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6159840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 hahah COILOVERS!!!! because it would be horrible to disallow anything built after 1952 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6159843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrd-hr30 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Hammerhead S13s are unfortunately banned. but that rule's only in section "3 Open Category Regulations" - Hammerheads are free to run in Clubsprint! lol The rule's really poorly worded too. Do they mean the width of the coachworh at that point, or at it's widest point? Its funny that they got so caught up in cut-and-pasting WTAC rules they're just reiterating or contradicting other CAMS General Requirements... roll cages, exhausts, wheels, seats, harnesses etc... You laugh about the "Coil over suspension kits are permitted" rule, but its not so funny when read in conjunction with this; "All Vehicles:- must only be modified as permitted by these Clubsprint Category Regulations". So this is all you can do to your suspension for instance: 2.6 Suspension 2.6.1 Suspension mount points as provided by the original vehicle manufacturer must be utilized. 2.6.2 Coil over suspension kits are permitted. 2.6.3 Aftermarket suspension arms are permitted that's it! that's all you are permitted to do to your suspension. No sway bars! No replacement bushes! etc etc... what retard writes this stuff? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6160844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSI Parts Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Surely the definition of "Suspension Arm" would include sway bars? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6161049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrd-hr30 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Surely the definition of "Suspension Arm" would include sway bars? only if you own a 70s Escort... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6161678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreddyGo Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Are you allowed to run a front splitter and canards? They protrude the coachwork don't they... Or do they become apart of the coachwork Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6163447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Are you allowed to run a front splitter and canards? They protrude the coachwork don't they... Or do they become apart of the coachwork If they are permanently fixed then they are part of the 'coachwork', love that antiquated word My ruling for what it is worth. PS: get a lawyer to go over regs wording before release, for crying out...... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6163539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I don't think we can blame the NSW panel for the time attack section of the regs, I'm sure they come from $uperlap regs. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6163546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreddyGo Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Cheers 260DET, i thought that would be the case. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6163940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 In every series I've seen they interpret coachwork as the original (or replacement) body panels. Otherwise there would be no limit on how wide a car could be if anything you add to the coachwork is coachwork. Canards and splitters generally are narrower than the widest point of the car's body. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6163964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 If 'coachwork' is to be interpreted as 'original coachwork' then that should be made clear because obviously there can be two different opinions if that is not done. Not trying to be a bitch but properly drafted regulations or whatever should be as unambigious as possible to save aggro and misunderstandings down the track. I used to draft stuff in another life, it is an art and not something most people can do well without some training at least. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6164390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sycorb Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 hi all i went to ARDC site and looked into getting involved with this but found no info can some1 steer me in the right direction to get involved thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6165510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSI Parts Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 http://www.supersprints.com.au/ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/386212-nsw-supersprint-cship-2012-changes-and-rules/#findComment-6165535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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