Hadouken Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hey SAU'ers. I have been searching the web and there are so many different ways to setup a catch can. Seeing as I do not completely understand the breather hose setup, this seems a bit confusing and frustrating to me. I have mocked a picture of what I think is a suitable setup. Can one of you please guide me in the right direction?! The green dots are where I think I should remove the hoses and block them off. But then it dawned on me, how does the catch can release pressure?! I know that venting to atmosphere is illegal. So how do i keep it as legal as possible? Any help/guidance is much appreciated. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 If you block the PCV then you vent to atmosphere. If you leave the PCV functional then you plumb the catch can back into the intake pipe. My advice is to leave the PCV functional... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 I see. So does that mean that the proposed setup I have going will work? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 What is PCV? And does the GTST have it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 rb25 has PCV running of the throttle side cam cover, doesnt it... when I replaced the rb25 camcovers for rb26 ones I installed an atmo catch can... If I were to block the atmo vent on the catch can where would I plumb that back too??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggroman Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 if the catch can is properly baffled (ie it catches any oil in the vapour and drains it to the bottom) you can run a 3rd line back to the intake port.. Basically like this in my crappy 30 sec paint job, and then a return line plumbed back into the sump unless you like removing it every now and again to drain the oil buildup.. Or look up a nismo oil air seperator and do it the easy way Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Why is it called PCV? Is that just the word used when you run the hose from the catch can to the intake. Or is PCV a function/object that car has Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Positive Crankcase Ventilation Valve, it sucks the oily gasses out of the rocker and dumps it into the manifold but only on vac. I have a secondary sealed catch can for my PCV, it works well as I used to blow oil smoke on startup and now its clear. Keeps the manifold clean too. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 if the catch can is properly baffled (ie it catches any oil in the vapour and drains it to the bottom) you can run a 3rd line back to the intake port.. Basically like this in my crappy 30 sec paint job, and then a return line plumbed back into the sump unless you like removing it every now and again to drain the oil buildup.. Or look up a nismo oil air seperator and do it the easy way Lol, Damn nismo and their crazy prices. OI hijackers, this is for rb26. answer my question first then you can continue Thanks for the quick mockup. But lets say there are only 2 ends on the catch can. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 hey Im half rb26 when it comes to PCV setup lol.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 *Edit* I wont jack Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6283991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Haha. Its all cool. just want a feel on how to do it, then you guys can jack. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Will this be efficient? *excluding the breather though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) But lets say there are only 2 ends on the catch can. Then you need to block the PCV and vent to atmosphere and it's going to be illegal, simple as that. For it to be legal you need to have the PCV operational which requires a third fitting on the catch can to plumb it back into the intake. Edited March 21, 2012 by Hanaldo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Will this be efficient? *excluding the breather though. No. The can needs to vent, whether it is to atmosphere or back into the system. I think you should read up on positive crankcase gasses. If the can can't vent then essentially what you are doing is blowing all this pressure into a sealed can, which will basically pressurize your crankcase until it pops your dipstick out and can vent. The pressure needs to go somewhere, that's the idea behind the breather setup. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKLABA Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 this how i have done it, I turned the fittings on the cam covers to face each other and put a pipe to join them aswell as the catch can on the top of the engine, then capped off one of the outlets of that can and ran a hose from the other one to the front catch can then from there I run hose back around to the inlet of the back turbo with a T to run a hose to the PCV. hope you can use something from this Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Ah, I see. So just move it to the right of that top pic. Hook it up to the right side of the rocker cover and there where it goes to the intake. That should mean that it can at least breath and hopefully seperate the oil. correct? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiR_RB Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 So the above catch can system would work if you block the pcv, the pic above has the pcv connected, and also running to a catch can who h vents to atmo? Seems like alot of confusion when it comes to hooking one up properly Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 tell me about it! but yeh the pcv is still hooked up, youre just replacing the u breather hose with the catch can... fml Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 make sure you keep the restrictor in the breather hoses, it is there for a reason Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/395481-so-how-do-i-want-to-setup-my-catch-can/#findComment-6284208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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