Carwash Soap Doesnt Sub Up Well

[w34ponGT]

hey people, just wondering because its pretty fustrating. doesnt matter how much soap i put it suds up nice for first few seconds then after you start using it, it goes to water,

ive tryed maguires wash and wax, and mothers carwash (both not cheap products)

i first put hot water then use gerni to get it mixed nicely

anything im doing wrong?

[starwarz]

what do you mean sub up (foam up ?) you just put a few caps into the bucket (per instruction) and thats it. Edit:oh i see now Gerni is a pressure washer

Edited August 7, 2012 by starwarz

[JGTC]

ideally the best way is to first fill up your bucket with water then add the soap whist mixing it in by hand - the reason for this is that you want the soaps and suds to be kept inside the water, keeping it slippery and lubricated

so when you use your mitt/sponge to absorb it and go over your car, there is the maximum amount of slip and lube between the mitt and your paint

IMO bubbles are wasted lubricant that should be in your wash solution not on top

also pretty basic but make sure you are applying the correct amount of wash as per the size of your bucket - ie wash and wax recommends 30mL/4L so if your bucket is 8L, use 60mL if it is 12L use 90mL and so forth - i bought a plastic measuring cup from the $2 shop which allows you to use the correct amount without wasting any

One of the better car wash vids - if you wna skip straight to where he pours the soap into the bucket its @ about 5:00

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Edited August 7, 2012 by squareznboxez

[JGTC]

srry here we go

Edited August 7, 2012 by squareznboxez

[w34ponGT]

serioudly i feel sorry for the bloke but if you got a metal leg wear some pants. i cant watch it now turns my stomach -_-

[Tai1or Made]

[w34ponGT]

watch the video

[Tai1or Made]

It was this part that deserved the lulwat.

i cant watch it now turns my stomach -_-

[Jonno34]

Suds really aren't too important mate, Final inspections PPBS (high end soap) doesn't sud very much at all. neither does auto glyms.

All you need are lubricity and a PH balanced solution as was previously mentioned.

[NRV155]

Terminator was sent back to wash john connors car. Prevents computers becoming self aware somehow.

[Skyline_034]

nice vid, ill try it next time and see how it goes

[SS8_Gohan]

Suds = useless and mean nothing. People have been made to "think" that unless it 'suds up', you don't have enough or it's not a good solution.

As Jonno34 pointed out, what you want is a pH neutral solution with high lubricity. Water down some of FI's PPBS (Paint Pampering Body Shampoo) and run it through your finger tips, even diluted you can still tell the lubricity is very high.

I also wouldn't be putting my shampoo solution in a bucket either. The best way IMO is to have your buckets full of clean, hot water. Do a pre-rinse with PPBS solution and hot water and then i wash the car with a spray pack of washing solution. So as i go around i put a few sprays on the panel, a few sprays on the washing mitt. This way you have even coverage of washing solution a;ready on the panel you're about to clean.

I use an old brake-cleaner pump-pack as the pre-rinse dispenser and then an old 500ml FI trigger bottle for when i'm doing the main wash. Use less product, nice big even spray from the pack gives you good coverage of the panel and you keep the rinse water the way it should be, clean rinse water (well for as long as you can)

[iwanta34gtr]

Suds = useless and mean nothing. People have been made to "think" that unless it 'suds up', you don't have enough or it's not a good solution.

+1

Edited August 9, 2012 by iwanta34gtr

[w34ponGT]

gohan your explanation sounds good, however, i might need someone to explain in person as its a bit mumbo jumbo to me. bit noob in the washing section

[greensa14]

Not necessarily true about the suds thing. I have recently bought a foam lance which hooks up to my Karcher pressure washer.

This creates a really nice thick foam that sits on the cars surface. The reason for this is to let the suds suck up any dust and dirt that isn't stuck to your paint.

You then rinse it off and begin your normal washing process whatever that may be.

I have found that this actually does work quite well, in reducing the small scratches you create when you are applying your normal wash with a microfibre mitt or sponge.

I wasn't really sold on it but i am def sold on it now.

[NISSAN GTR]

Pour the product/solution all over the car when wet " not mixed " Perfect system with no scratch

[Birds]

lol science of washing a car...

Wanna know how I do it? $5 Armorall heavy duty wash and a $2 jumbo sponge. 4 caps in a regular bucket as you're filling it with water. Clears the sinuses and as a bonus it also cleans your car. Squirt panel with water, soap it up, squirt again.

Put some effort into waxing and the washing part won't need to be rocket science. On that note, I use a $7 paste wax that continues to bead after 6 months. Come at me premium products:

[NISSAN GTR]

Pour the product/solution all over the car when wet " not mixed " Perfect system with no scratch

This is the best way by far , dont f...k around using a capful here and there = use at least a handful straight on the paint all over the car

[w34ponGT]

This is the best way by far , dont f...k around using a capful here and there = use at least a handful straight on the paint all over the car

you quoted your own comment

-_-

Edited October 9, 2012 by w34ponGT

[NISSAN GTR]

you quoted your own comment

Thats because its a gun comment , it needs be recognised fully

-_-