Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

I am joining the SDMA to get onto the track for the first time and get my cams L2s licence.

Also to learn how to ready the car for trackdays, as i want to drive at Wakefield one day.

Is anyone here doing it or have done it before?

Found this from 2007

post-89755-0-29317400-1350694298_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/411928-sutton-hillclimb-anyone-do-it/
Share on other sites

I'm going to check it out tomorrow.. Dave (rx7) has convinced me to at least do that.. haha. It's got a good reputation so I plan on seeing it myself :)

I've done 1 Trackday, at Wakefield, which taught me a lot about car control and once I had the instructor onboard, racing lines.

As for prep, an oil change before and after is advisable, and for SDMA, you would want high tyre pressures as you have little opportunity to warm them up. Brakes would be more of an issue at Wakefield, higher speeds and harder stops (cooked my oem pads at Wakefield), but youd want to do regular brake bleeds.

That's all the advice I can give, but I'll be there tomorrow :)

I've been thinking about getting into sutton hill climb for the exact same reasons as you. I have a few mates that do it and it looks like heaps of fun. I won't be there tomorrow though as ill be fitting my new pads and rotors so ill be ready for the next hill climb :D

been out once, back when the car was first built.

I wasnt too big on it as above, six 50sec odd runs. + there is/was like an hours wait between each run.

wound mind going back and getting some proper numbers now though... :)

Been a couple of times (every now and again). Not a big fan either. Four 50+ second runs for $90 feels like a lot of money. I wish there were practice days with reduced numbers. And they frown on drifting.....

Wakefield is much better value for money, however the track is so fully booked out these days.

Also to learn how to ready the car for trackdays, as i want to drive at Wakefield one day.

I agree with others that four to five sessions lasting only 50 seconds each for an entire day "racing" just does not give a good return on investment of either time or money. Hillclimb 4-5 minutes on track for say 9 hours investment inc travel time, v six 10 min sessions for 11 hours investment inc travel time

Not to say it's a bad thing to do, quite fun. But so's go karting and that's a lot cheaper.

As for helping with track prep for wakefield, they are really different things. Come to a SAUNSW trackday, they are your best way and very newb friendly (about 30-40% newbs). Comparing Hillclimb to track day. Braking is totally different, hill climb you want soft brake pads that brake from cold, track day you want long lasting brakes that work when hot, same goes for tyres etc. My first hillclimb I nearly ended up in the trees as the brake pads were track ones, fine by the end of the lap. Basically a hillclimb take a normal car, a track day you really need some harder wearing parts.

Hmmm interesting,

didnt know it was $90 for the day.... does make it a little expensive, and no practice days isnt good.

I think ill try it anyway, the car is suitable (pads, tyres).

Ps: Kat the new pic shows the pearl. nice.

Thankyou! That's also why I like it. That and finally had a nice pic with my TE37s! :D

I was going to head out to this but I dragged the fur babies around the lake instead now have to go do some domestic duties!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Yeah, that's fine**. But the numbers you came up with are just wrong. Try it for yourself. Put in any voltage from the possible range and see what result you get. You get nonsense. ** When I say "fine", I mean, it's still shit. The very simple linear formula (slope & intercept) is shit for a sensor with a non-linear response. This is the curve, from your data above. Look at the CURVE! It's only really linear between about 30 and 90 °C. And if you used only that range to define a curve, it would be great. But you would go more and more wrong as you went to higher temps. And that is why the slope & intercept found when you use 50 and 150 as the end points is so bad halfway between those points. The real curve is a long way below the linear curve which just zips straight between the end points, like this one. You could probably use the same slope and a lower intercept, to move that straight line down, and spread the error out. But you would 5-10°C off in a lot of places. You'd need to say what temperature range you really wanted to be most right - say, 100 to 130, and plop the line closest to teh real curve in that region, which would make it quite wrong down at the lower temperatures. Let me just say that HPTuners are not being realistic in only allowing for a simple linear curve. 
    • I feel I should re-iterate. The above picture is the only option available in the software and the blurb from HP Tuners I quoted earlier is the only way to add data to it and that's the description they offer as to how to figure it out. The only fields available is the blank box after (Input/ ) and the box right before = Output. Those are the only numbers that can be entered.
    • No, your formula is arse backwards. Mine is totally different to yours, and is the one I said was bang on at 50 and 150. I'll put your data into Excel (actually it already is, chart it and fit a linear fit to it, aiming to make it evenly wrong across the whole span. But not now. Other things to do first.
    • God damnit. The only option I actually have in the software is the one that is screenshotted. I am glad that I at least got it right... for those two points. Would it actually change anything if I chose/used 80C and 120C as the two points instead? My brain wants to imagine the formula put into HPtuners would be the same equation, otherwise none of this makes sense to me, unless: 1) The formula you put into VCM Scanner/HPTuners is always linear 2) The two points/input pairs are only arbitrary to choose (as the documentation implies) IF the actual scaling of the sensor is linear. then 3) If the scaling is not linear, the two points you choose matter a great deal, because the formula will draw a line between those two points only.
    • Nah, that is hella wrong. If I do a simple linear between 150°C (0.407v) and 50°C (2.98v) I get the formula Temperature = -38.8651*voltage + 165.8181 It is perfectly correct at 50 and 150, but it is as much as 20° out in the region of 110°C, because the actual data is significantly non-linear there. It is no more than 4° out down at the lowest temperatures, but is is seriously shit almost everywhere. I cannot believe that the instruction is to do a 2 point linear fit. I would say the method I used previously would have to be better.
×
×
  • Create New...